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TRC 458

Ryan Holter

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HI looking for some help!! I have a Trc 458 bought it and was told it worked years ago and was put on a shelf. when I got the radio hooked up and will tx but no rx. recaped it and still the same there is a hiss sound on rx and the volume and squelch seam to work but with a radio only a few feet from it there is only a hiss. where should i look not sure pretty new to this and would sure like some help!!
 

HI robb is there any way you can highlight the signal flow from the antenna forward for me to use a signal tracer on the circuit diagram you posted above as i am not that good at reading this that would be very helpful. The info you have posted is great thanks
 
you need to make sure the relay contacts are good and clean. you can lose RX when the contacts are dirty from setting for a few years. the relay should just be a plug in so you can pull it out to clean the contacts. I had a old president radio with no rx last year I bought and where the plug in was soldered to the board they had gone bad. just cleaned the solder off and reflowed it and the radio started RXing again. so many little things to check before you just start trying to trace the schematic 1st.
 
Ryan, using the schematic you posted, look down on the left side and find the antenna jack (J401).

now following that line you can see the first place it goes is to the relay contacts that switch between Receive and Transmit.

so, first step is to jumper across the RX terminals to see if it's the relay contacts that are at fault. to do this, temporarily connect a length of wire from the center pin of the antenna jack to the end of C11 that connects to the relay socket. (leave the relay in place for this test, and have an antenna connected)

if your receive comes back, you know it's the relay itself that is at fault.

if it does not come back, your next place to look is C11 itself. it checks good?

then your next most likely culprits are TR4, L3, and TR5.
to check the transistors, remove them from the radio and test them using the diode function of your DMM.
for L3, check continuity across the windings.

im going to stop there, as after this the possibilities start expanding.

having said all that, there is a good chance that you just need a good receive alignment.
Yes, i understand that injecting a signal into the antenna jack isnt going to give you a signal to peak. you will need to inject signals along the receiver path to peak each can along the way. unless you know how to do this, it's time to send it to someone who does.

trying to walk someone through that process online is almost futile as you dont know whether or not the instructions were followed properly and you can end up in an endless loop of "nope that didn't work" and "ok try this".

best of luck.
LC
 
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YYYYYAAAAAA got it the FET1 was bad YOU guys are the best I had a parts radio and and pulled most transistors and fets out for testing looked at what you posted and started checking after the pll d858 and found the first fet lost signal changed it out with parts one and as soon as I touched the antenna wire on back got some static I tested on am ssb and had good reception with my other radio wow you guys dont know how happy I am right now WOW Thanks again sssssooooo glad that I tried on hear and joined now I can move on the restoration!!!!:)
 

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Ryan, using the schematic you posted, look down on the left side and find the antenna jack (J401).

now following that line you can see the first place it goes is to the relay contacts that switch between Receive and Transmit.

so, first step is to jumper across the RX terminals to see if it's the relay contacts that are at fault. to do this, temporarily connect a length of wire from the center pin of the antenna jack to the end of C11 that connects to the relay socket. (leave the relay in place for this test, and have an antenna connected)

if your receive comes back, you know it's the relay itself that is at fault.

if it does not come back, your next place to look is C11 itself. it checks good?

then your next most likely culprits are TR4, L3, and TR5.
to check the transistors, remove them from the radio and test them using the diode function of your DMM.
for L3, check continuity across the windings.

im going to stop there, as after this the possibilities start expanding.

having said all that, there is a good chance that you just need a good receive alignment.
Yes, i understand that injecting a signal into the antenna jack isnt going to give you a signal to peak. you will need to inject signals along the receiver path to peak each can along the way. unless you know how to do this, it's time to send it to someone who does.

trying to walk someone through that process online is almost futile as you dont know whether or not the instructions were followed properly and you can end up in an endless loop of "nope that didn't work" and "ok try this".

best of luck.
LC
Ryan, using the schematic you posted, look down on the left side and find the antenna jack (J401).

now following that line you can see the first place it goes is to the relay contacts that switch between Receive and Transmit.

so, first step is to jumper across the RX terminals to see if it's the relay contacts that are at fault. to do this, temporarily connect a length of wire from the center pin of the antenna jack to the end of C11 that connects to the relay socket. (leave the relay in place for this test, and have an antenna connected)

if your receive comes back, you know it's the relay itself that is at fault.

if it does not come back, your next place to look is C11 itself. it checks good?

then your next most likely culprits are TR4, L3, and TR5.
to check the transistors, remove them from the radio and test them using the diode function of your DMM.
for L3, check continuity across the windings.

im going to stop there, as after this the possibilities start expanding.

having said all that, there is a good chance that you just need a good receive alignment.
Yes, i understand that injecting a signal into the antenna jack isnt going to give you a signal to peak. you will need to inject signals along the receiver path to peak each can along the way. unless you know how to do this, it's time to send it to someone who does.

trying to walk someone through that process online is almost futile as you dont know whether or not the instructions were followed properly and you can end up in an endless loop of "nope that didn't work" and "ok try this".

best of luck.
LC
 

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