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Guys don't leave in this antenna nightmare! The more I read the dumber I get??
This antenna theory is hard on my brain Dx. Is the main purpose for all this head scratching .... This antenna will be mounted at the water (saltwater)line during use at 10-20 feet....looking to get a lower radiation pattern to work Dx from the beach.
Making the antenna electrically a 3/4 wave for resonance and 5/8 wave for the radiation pattern? Is think ? Is this what is being attempted? I understand past .64 wave antenna pattern break up into many lobes and nulls....I want as low a radiation take off angle with the majority of the radiation in that low angle Lobe? Correct?
Radials....mine measure 102 inches. Would a be better to add another radial ring below the ones currently on the antenna...I have the parts and tubing.(ended up with 2 of these antennas?). Would this be the same as folks adding 120 wire radials to some verticals? I thought the mast would be the other half such as a dipole. Some models I have. Found on the web show the mast and feedline radiating? I have thought about adding wire radials around the mast laying on the ground but reading these must be a certain wavelength and would not be worth all the tuning....I can't get a simple antenna to tune so adding issues is the wrong way to go.

<blockquote data-quote="ghutch" data-source="post: 396516" data-attributes="member: 15022">Guys don&#039;t leave in this antenna nightmare! The more I read the dumber I get??This antenna theory is hard on my brain<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f633.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":oops:" title="Oops!&nbsp; &nbsp; :oops:"&nbsp; data-smilie="10"data-shortname=":oops:" /> Dx. Is the main purpose for all this head scratching .... This antenna will be mounted at the water (saltwater)line during use at 10-20 feet....looking to get a lower radiation pattern to work Dx from the beach.Making the antenna electrically a 3/4 wave for resonance and 5/8 wave for the radiation pattern?&nbsp; Is think ? Is this what is being attempted? I understand past .64 wave antenna pattern break up into many lobes and nulls....I want as low a radiation take off angle with the majority of the radiation in that low angle Lobe? Correct?Radials....mine measure 102 inches. Would a be better to add another radial ring below the ones currently on the antenna...I have the parts and tubing.(ended up with 2 of these antennas?). Would this be the same as folks adding 120 wire radials to some verticals? I thought the mast would be the other half such as a dipole. Some models I have. Found on the web show the mast and feedline radiating? I have thought about adding wire radials around the mast laying on the ground but reading these must be a certain wavelength and would not be worth all the tuning....I can&#039;t get a simple antenna to tune so adding issues is the wrong way to go. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f910.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cursing:" title="Censored&nbsp; &nbsp; :cursing:"&nbsp; data-smilie="15"data-shortname=":cursing:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="ghutch, post: 396516, member: 15022"] Guys don't leave in this antenna nightmare! The more I read the dumber I get?? This antenna theory is hard on my brain:oops: Dx. Is the main purpose for all this head scratching .... This antenna will be mounted at the water (saltwater)line during use at 10-20 feet....looking to get a lower radiation pattern to work Dx from the beach. Making the antenna electrically a 3/4 wave for resonance and 5/8 wave for the radiation pattern? Is think ? Is this what is being attempted? I understand past .64 wave antenna pattern break up into many lobes and nulls....I want as low a radiation take off angle with the majority of the radiation in that low angle Lobe? Correct? Radials....mine measure 102 inches. Would a be better to add another radial ring below the ones currently on the antenna...I have the parts and tubing.(ended up with 2 of these antennas?). Would this be the same as folks adding 120 wire radials to some verticals? I thought the mast would be the other half such as a dipole. Some models I have. Found on the web show the mast and feedline radiating? I have thought about adding wire radials around the mast laying on the ground but reading these must be a certain wavelength and would not be worth all the tuning....I can't get a simple antenna to tune so adding issues is the wrong way to go. :cursing: [/QUOTE]

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