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sweet! thanks man! yup i know what you mean my stock pdl 2 didnt like the last winter ice storm but i fixed her up, i am going to add a director and find its sweet spot with a field strength meter and another station (my dad) about 4 miles away. then add one more element and repeat tuning. no hurry i don't even have all my tower sections yet and that crap is hard to find at a reasonable price!