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maybe its not absolute gain that's important eddie, the angles of interest to me are the lower lobes, what gives best results at low angles,

you remember the claim that a 5/8 has the lowest takeoff angle, and me not agreeing with that based on how far i can talk local on the hybrid vs my 5/8waves,


i sort of remember your list of models but not the details,

we have an issue with what your models show not agreeing with what me and Donald see in our tests when the monopole is extended beyond 3/4wave but not as long as 7/8wave, im still not sure about why that is,


all best are off if i have skip or im experiencing multipath flutter

the signals must be stable imho,


even airplanes cause significant flutter between me and a buddy  a few miles away,  peaks and troughs in his signal and changes in receiver quieting that vary in rate of repetition as the plane gets closer to me,

i can tell him a plane is going over his house way before i can hear it,

it stops when the plane is about midway between us and starts again as it gets closer to me, he hears & sees the same thing,


i have been presented with a couple of ideas about why raising a 1/2wave does not seem to make it equal to my hybrid when the smart guys say it should and they make sense to me,

unfortunately i don't have a decent 1/2wave endfed with low loss matching that i could isolate to test the idea,


i do remember years ago comparing a99 against a sirio 2012 and stock sigma on a pneumatic mast at my parents,

the a99 and sirio 2012 were about equal and the sigma 1.5 s-units higher on a uniden cb,


im hoping to get some more input.