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Eddie
I set my mast above the isolator @ 18ft the other evening, the choke is only there because i can't find my ferrite beads at the moment,
i don't think im far from where i want to be but theres always room for improvement even though i won't see it on air,
it remains to be seen if mast current dips when upper 1/4wave current peaks as i think it should,

There's a logical answer to all of this stuff Eddie,

I think you got good results with the starduster because it acts like an efficient 1/2wave with no out of phase radiation when correctly isolated,
I think it probably will at least equal any 5/8 at the same tip height as you have told us all along,

most people including myself in the past don't install antennas correctly & live in a world of CMC where its not wanted,
they bolt them to conductive masts, run ground wires, use no choke or balun, or do use a choke but don't isolate the mast, or do use a choke and isolate but don't use radials so the choke won't work,

after fixing several locals issues with a99 imax & silver rods and seen with my own eyes signal improve, noise reduce, rfi dissapear, i don't do things like that anymore,

I have thought long and hard for an answer to why I got the results I did with the modified vector,
all I can come up with at the moment is surroundings and not having the antenna high above ground, I found a sweet spot that suited my particular set of circumstances as did friends i had tweak their antennas,

yes we all could manipulate signals as I claimed, I was probably off base as to why that was but we live and learn Eddie,

I also got good results here in my youth even when the antennas were anything up to 2 wavelengths to feedpoint but I can't remember how good compared to other antennas & I did not give the shorter antennas a fighting chance by sticking them at the same tip height nor did I properly isolate them,

Henry is a smart cookie, as honest and genuine as they come, a VERY unusual guy for a cb antenna builder,
he taught me a few things I probably would never have learned from other sources,

I have known for many years that radio is not a laser-beam and that reflections play a role even when they bounce off airplanes,
I never saw the results of direct wave + ground reflections combined at the receiver before but that's what happens in the real world,
i just never gave it that much thought before Henry showed me the graph.

<blockquote data-quote="bob85" data-source="post: 594334" data-attributes="member: 18">EddieI set my mast above the isolator @ 18ft the other evening, the choke is only there because i can&#039;t find my ferrite beads at the moment,i don&#039;t think im far from where i want to be but theres always room for improvement even though i won&#039;t see it on air, it remains to be seen if mast current dips when upper 1/4wave current peaks as i think it should,There&#039;s a logical answer to all of this stuff Eddie,I think you got good results with the starduster because it acts like an efficient 1/2wave with no out of phase radiation when correctly isolated,I think it probably will at least equal any 5/8 at the same tip height as you have told us all along,most people including myself in the past don&#039;t install antennas correctly &amp; live in a world of CMC where its not wanted,they bolt them to conductive masts, run ground wires, use no choke or balun, or do use a choke but don&#039;t isolate the mast, or do use a choke and isolate but don&#039;t use radials so the choke won&#039;t work,after fixing several locals issues with a99 imax &amp; silver rods and seen with my own eyes signal improve, noise reduce, rfi dissapear, i don&#039;t do things like that anymore,I have thought long and hard for an answer to why I got the results I did with the modified vector,all I can come up with at the moment is surroundings and not having the antenna high above ground, I found a sweet spot that suited my particular set of circumstances as did friends i had tweak their antennas,yes we all could manipulate signals as I claimed, I was probably off base as to why that was but we live and learn Eddie,I also got good results here in my youth even when the antennas were anything up to 2 wavelengths to feedpoint but I can&#039;t remember how good compared to other antennas &amp; I did not give the shorter antennas a fighting chance by sticking them at the same tip height nor did I properly isolate them,Henry is a smart cookie, as honest and genuine as they come, a VERY unusual guy for a cb antenna builder,he taught me a few things I probably would never have learned from other sources,I have known for many years that radio is not a laser-beam and that reflections play a role even when they bounce off airplanes,I never saw the results of direct wave + ground reflections combined at the receiver before but that&#039;s what happens in the real world,i just never gave it that much thought before Henry showed me the graph.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bob85, post: 594334, member: 18"] Eddie I set my mast above the isolator @ 18ft the other evening, the choke is only there because i can't find my ferrite beads at the moment, i don't think im far from where i want to be but theres always room for improvement even though i won't see it on air, it remains to be seen if mast current dips when upper 1/4wave current peaks as i think it should, There's a logical answer to all of this stuff Eddie, I think you got good results with the starduster because it acts like an efficient 1/2wave with no out of phase radiation when correctly isolated, I think it probably will at least equal any 5/8 at the same tip height as you have told us all along, most people including myself in the past don't install antennas correctly & live in a world of CMC where its not wanted, they bolt them to conductive masts, run ground wires, use no choke or balun, or do use a choke but don't isolate the mast, or do use a choke and isolate but don't use radials so the choke won't work, after fixing several locals issues with a99 imax & silver rods and seen with my own eyes signal improve, noise reduce, rfi dissapear, i don't do things like that anymore, I have thought long and hard for an answer to why I got the results I did with the modified vector, all I can come up with at the moment is surroundings and not having the antenna high above ground, I found a sweet spot that suited my particular set of circumstances as did friends i had tweak their antennas, yes we all could manipulate signals as I claimed, I was probably off base as to why that was but we live and learn Eddie, I also got good results here in my youth even when the antennas were anything up to 2 wavelengths to feedpoint but I can't remember how good compared to other antennas & I did not give the shorter antennas a fighting chance by sticking them at the same tip height nor did I properly isolate them, Henry is a smart cookie, as honest and genuine as they come, a VERY unusual guy for a cb antenna builder, he taught me a few things I probably would never have learned from other sources, I have known for many years that radio is not a laser-beam and that reflections play a role even when they bounce off airplanes, I never saw the results of direct wave + ground reflections combined at the receiver before but that's what happens in the real world, i just never gave it that much thought before Henry showed me the graph. [/QUOTE]

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