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It would be better if there was more truth to it than the Hollywood spin. The role of Ambassador Ken Taylor was downplayed and that of John Sheardown, the former first secretary at the Canadian embassy was ignored in the film altogether. Another attempt by the USA film industry to make it look like it was the Americans that won the day. Sadley John Sheardon passed away late last month as the hit movie was making it's rounds ignoring him and his actions that lead to the escape of the six USA embassy workers.


John Sheardown, Canadian hero of Tehran hostage crisis, dies aged 88 | World news | guardian.co.uk
 
Considering how bad the situation was, how it was mismanaged, the film makers needed to 'steal' all the credit they possibly could just to make things bad but 'acceptable'. If that makes sense. If they'd told the truth, I think there would have been impeachment proceedings at the very least. Is that some kind of good excuse? No, but it makes things more understandable. Crappy way of looking at it, huh? Yeah, but what else is left?
- 'Doc
 
Considering how bad the situation was, how it was mismanaged, the film makers needed to 'steal' all the credit they possibly could just to make things bad but 'acceptable'. If that makes sense. If they'd told the truth, I think there would have been impeachment proceedings at the very least. Is that some kind of good excuse? No, but it makes things more understandable. Crappy way of looking at it, huh? Yeah, but what else is left?
- 'Doc

I got to review Zero dark thirty, i know a lot of the movie is not how it went down...atleast from what i heard anyways its just a movie
 
With all due respect Doc I don't really buy that. The truth has been known for many years.A movie wasn't going to change the known facts except as they were portrayed. It just really irks me when Hollywood rewrites history. A surprisingly large amount of people will see a movie that was "based on real life events" and think it was accurately portrayed completely unaware of "artistic license". It reminds me of the time I watched a movie "based on real life events" about the liberation of the Netherlands in WW2. It showed scores of US troops in US marked vehicles,planes, and tanks "saving the Dutch from certain starvation and death" while in fact it was mainly Canadian troops that pushed their way through Holland backed by the Brits and Polish forces. From the movie you would think the Dutch royal family was whisked away to safety in America while the USA liberated their country.The biggest role the USA played in Holland was during operation market Garden when they seized two key bridges, one in Son and the other in Njimegan. At least this was accurately portrayed in A Bridge Too Far. BTW I grew up living next to a Dutch farmer that grew up in Njimegan during the war. He went back for a visit during the filming of that movie. He was happy with the portrayal of events in that movie.
 
If you start talking about everything hollywood does that pisses you off CKW, you better start a whole new forum.

I have to remind myself every time I watch a "based on actual events" movie that they will not be the actual events, and the movie is entertainment and nothing more. Otherwise I start yelling at my tv.
 
If you start talking about everything hollywood does that pisses you off CKW, you better start a whole new forum.

I have to remind myself every time I watch a "based on actual events" movie that they will not be the actual events, and the movie is entertainment and nothing more. Otherwise I start yelling at my tv.

I am not talking about everything Hollywood does. My only beef is in attempt by Hollywood to distort and deny, the glory if you will, to those that deserve it in historically important events and make out as if some completely different party was responsible for the events unfolding as they truly did. All sorts of shows are produced with disclaimers regarding the portrayal of factual events but IMHO it is a great injustice to award recognition to undeserving parties while ignoring those that truly deserve it.
 
I agree. I am a history buff and movies like U-571 I have to view as entertainment only. It does get to me though.
 
I am not talking about everything Hollywood does. My only beef is in attempt by Hollywood to distort and deny, the glory if you will, to those that deserve it in historically important events and make out as if some completely different party was responsible for the events unfolding as they truly did. All sorts of shows are produced with disclaimers regarding the portrayal of factual events but IMHO it is a great injustice to award recognition to undeserving parties while ignoring those that truly deserve it.

Is it possible hollywood could face peniltys for making certain movies with actual events ? Also some historical events suck and it takes Hollywood to make the picture better than what actually happened. I believe there is word for it: Yellow journalism.
 
I agree. I am a history buff and movies like U-571 I have to view as entertainment only. It does get to me though.


That was another one that burned me. In the movie it was US submariners disguised as another German sub that captured the enigma code cypher machine while in reality it was captured by the British before the USA even entered the war.

U-571 (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I don't believe anything that comes out of 'Hollywood', or the 'news services' now, most of it -might- be very loosely based on fact, but I don't expect any of it to resemble much reality. From prior experience, Hollywood's bucket has got one huge hole in it, you know? So do the 'news services'. I think both are more entertainment oriented than factual.
- 'Doc
 
That was another one that burned me. In the movie it was US submariners disguised as another German sub that captured the enigma code cypher machine while in reality it was captured by the British before the USA even entered the war.

U-571 (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We all know that it was Harvey Keitel and Bon Jovi that captured it.:D

Honestly I don't get why they do that either. I would watch a movie where the British guys are the heroes. We seem to dig James Bond movies, why not a movie about the real capture of the enigma code machine. I'm sure Bon Jovi could stumble through a british accent.
 

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