as i consider..... (radio question)

[oldslowchevy]

i have been thinking of getting my ham ticket more and more lately i to have been looking at a few radios.

i have talked on cb most of my life and have met some realy good friends along the way. i do however want to expand farther in to the hobby more than just picking up a mic and talking.

on that note though my budget like may is tight. so with that said, i am looking for an "all band" radio so as my lic moves to the next teirs i will have a radio that i can still talk on.

but here is a question i can not seem to find an answer to. will these all band radios work on 11 meter(cb) also? seems odd that they work on 10 and 12meters, as well as others bands. if not then oh well i am just tring to keep the clutter down.

also any sujestion for both a home (base) as well as a mobile unit, please keep in mind budget is a factor for me, $300-500 is the most i could do.

damn low paying jobs:headbang

 

[binrat]

First, I must say that having an all mode working on 11 metres may not sit well with some.
That said, what you need to do is buy a used rig and perform the "MARS" mod to get them to do it. I've heard many ham rigs on 11 metres and for AM most blow, but for SSB , oh yeah baby.
Edit to add:
My first HF rig was a Icom IC707 with a MARS mod and CW filter. I bought it that way so I figured that the old boy like 11 metres too.

 

[oldslowchevy]

mars mod?..... please exuse my ignorace, but i have no idea what that is.

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

mars mod?..... please exuse my ignorace, but i have no idea what that is.

Military Auxiliary Radio System

Military Auxiliary Radio System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ham radios require a modification to operate out of band on the MARS frequencies. This mod usually opens up the radio so it will transmit on all the frequencies it will receive.....yes 11m is included.

 

[oldslowchevy]

ohhhh......... i can see i still have much to learn..... hummmmmmmmmm:blink:

 

[binrat]

ohhhh......... i can see i still have much to learn..... hummmmmmmmmm:blink:

Keep reading the threads on here and keep asking questions. There are many forums out there some bad, some good and some great. I would say this forum is the best for real information.

 

[AudioShockwav]

Of course you know that you can not legally use the ham radio to transmit on the cb band, but you can use it to listen all you like.

( not like there is not half a million people doing that anyway...but it has to be said)


73
Jeff

 

[binrat]

Of course you know that you can not legally use the ham radio to transmit on the cb band, but you can use it to listen all you like.

( not like there is not half a million people doing that anyway...but it has to be said)


73
Jeff

It sure is great when mobile to be listening to the traffic reports ect.

 

[oldslowchevy]

Of course you know that you can not legally use the ham radio to transmit on the cb band, but you can use it to listen all you like.

( not like there is not half a million people doing that anyway...but it has to be said)


73
Jeff

honsetly i did not know that, though that does explain why i could not find what i was looking for then.

i did know that i could not operate a cb(export type) on the ham bands but was unaware that if you had your ham ticket you could not operate a ham radio on 11 meters.

can you explain why up can't? do ham radios put out more then the leagle 4 watts? if that is so then i understand.

 

[binrat]

I think ( I know thats dangerous) you are correct about power.

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

honsetly i did not know that, though that does explain why i could not find what i was looking for then.

i did know that i could not operate a cb(export type) on the ham bands but was unaware that if you had your ham ticket you could not operate a ham radio on 11 meters.

can you explain why up can't? do ham radios put out more then the leagle 4 watts? if that is so then i understand.

An export radio is perfectly legal to use on the ham bands.

You cannot operate a ham radio on the CB band regardless of a ham license or not. It also does not matter what the power output is a ham radio is still NOT legal to operate on the CB band. The CB band requires equipment to meet certain certifications for that band. Ham radios do not meet that certification for a variety of reasons including frequency of operation and power output as well as a few other things.

 

[AudioShockwav]

The only radios you can use on the CB band in the U.S. are those that are type accepted by the FCC
They will have a plate on the back of the radio that looks like this

It give`s you the FCC ID number and lets you know that it complies with the part 15 rules for CB transceivers.
You are not allowed to modify a type accepted radio in anyway or it voids the type acceptance.

An Amateur radio not only exceeds the power output of a type accepted CB but also frequency range, modes of operation and so on.
So to stay legal, you need a type accepted CB radio.
You may listen to the CB frequency s on any type of radio you like, you just can not transmit on them.
By the way, you CAN use a CB on the Ham bands, you would have to modify the CB to operate on a frequency that is with-in permitted bands that your type of license covers, but this is done all the time.
I have seen CB radio used on Ten meters, 12 meters, even 20 meters after they have been modified..BUT once you mod them to work on another band they are no longer permitted to be used on the CB band.
That is one of the fundamental differences between CB and Ham radio.
On CB you must use the radio as it is sold and can not modify it.
Ham radios can be modified all you want, in fact you can build your own radio if you like as long as it operates and you use it with in the class of your license, and the Tech specs comply with the regulations.


73
Jeff