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did you try extending it to around 1 and 1/4 (circa 45 feet) wavelengths Eddie, cause if i'm reading Donald and arrl statements correctly thats what would be required as the bottom 1/4 wave of radiator is shielded therefore isn't a part of the radiator as such. that would leave you a 4:1 ratio radiator above the baskets cancelling effect. just a thought for you.