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sorry marconi but i havent used either. i do have a local here with the older astroplane

and he does as good as anyone else. and depending on direction sometimes better than

me .my expectations were just that, how i expected them to perform.i really wasnt

meaning the a/p would show the same performance as the vector, my understanding

was homers a/p was as good as all other antennas EXCEPT the vector.ive heard

from locals here and seen it so when i said expected that,homers finding with the a/p

really didnt surprise me much.i enjoy homers tests his terrain is much like mine...hilly