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Standard disclaimer:This shall not degrade to a CBer versus ham thread with all the emotions that it entails. We all know how those threads end up and I seem to have misplaced my LOCKED THREAD padlock icon so I can't use it for now.

And just like you categorize most hams as ignorant pompous pricks CBers are categorized as folks with COMPLETE disregard for the rules and wouldn't know good audio from dirt. They also have no intention of conforming to the way things are conducted on the ham bands and just want to continue their errant ways on ham radio. See? Ain't stereotyping a bitch? Face it, right or wrong the proliferation of dirty signals on the bands caused by class C splatter box amps and disregard for the rules leaves a bad taste in a lot of hams mouths. Many of them have had problems with illegal CBers on the 10m band as well. Unfortunately you are guilty until proven innocent in this case. If someone wants to become a ham then go for it. What is wrong with simply keeping the CBer inside and out of sight when you are discussing what you want out of radio? In some cases this is the best thing to do as it avoids the stereotype issue. Me personally I couldn't care less if a new ham is/was a CBer as long as he conforms to the way things are on the ham bands and leaves the 11m shenanigans to 11m. Years ago here we had a well established 2m repeater virtually taken over by a bunch of CBers that recently had gotten their ham tickets. Some ran power microphones on their 2m FM radio and over-deviated to the point of insanity. When a ham told them to back off the audio as they were dropping out of the repeater due to overmodulating, they were told to go F themselves. They had a ticket just like he did. They used 10-codes on the bands as well as played music now and then and had the dirties signals heard. Eventually most of them disappeared for one reason or another but that REALLY left a sour taste for CBers getting their ticket around here for a while let me tell you. In the end it really is a case of a few spoiling it for the rest but how do you know how a newbie will be until after he is on the air? That is the reason you get the attitude you see from some hams.

<blockquote data-quote="Captain Kilowatt" data-source="post: 529784" data-attributes="member: 39">Standard disclaimer:This shall not degrade to a CBer versus ham thread with all the emotions that it entails. We all know how those threads end up and I seem to have misplaced my LOCKED THREAD padlock icon so I can&#039;t use it for now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />And just like you categorize most hams as ignorant pompous pricks CBers are categorized as folks with COMPLETE disregard for the rules and wouldn&#039;t know good audio from dirt. They also have no intention of conforming to the way things are conducted on the ham bands and just want to continue their errant ways on ham radio.&nbsp; See? Ain&#039;t stereotyping a bitch? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; Face it, right or wrong the proliferation of dirty signals on the bands caused by class C splatter box amps and disregard for the rules leaves a bad taste in a lot of hams mouths. Many of them have had problems with illegal CBers on the 10m band as well. Unfortunately you are guilty until proven innocent in this case. If someone wants to become a ham then go for it. What is wrong with simply keeping the CBer inside and out of sight when you are discussing what you want out of radio? In some cases this is the best thing to do as it avoids the stereotype issue. Me personally I couldn&#039;t care less if a new ham is/was a CBer as long as he conforms to the way things are on the ham bands and leaves the 11m shenanigans to 11m. Years ago here we had a well established 2m repeater virtually taken over by a bunch of CBers that recently had gotten their ham tickets. Some ran power microphones on their 2m FM radio and over-deviated to the point of insanity. When a ham told them to back off the audio as they were dropping out of the repeater due to overmodulating, they were told to go F themselves. They had a ticket just like he did. They used 10-codes on the bands as well as played music now and then and had the dirties signals heard. Eventually most of them&nbsp; disappeared for one reason or another but that REALLY left a sour taste for CBers getting their ticket around here for a while let me tell you. In the end it really is a case of a few spoiling it for the rest but how do you know how a newbie will be until after he is on the air? That is the reason you get the attitude you see from some hams.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Captain Kilowatt, post: 529784, member: 39"] [B]Standard disclaimer:This shall not degrade to a CBer versus ham thread with all the emotions that it entails. We all know how those threads end up and I seem to have misplaced my LOCKED THREAD padlock icon so I can't use it for now.[/B] ;) And just like you categorize most hams as ignorant pompous pricks CBers are categorized as folks with COMPLETE disregard for the rules and wouldn't know good audio from dirt. They also have no intention of conforming to the way things are conducted on the ham bands and just want to continue their errant ways on ham radio. See? Ain't stereotyping a bitch? ;) Face it, right or wrong the proliferation of dirty signals on the bands caused by class C splatter box amps and disregard for the rules leaves a bad taste in a lot of hams mouths. Many of them have had problems with illegal CBers on the 10m band as well. Unfortunately you are guilty until proven innocent in this case. If someone wants to become a ham then go for it. What is wrong with simply keeping the CBer inside and out of sight when you are discussing what you want out of radio? In some cases this is the best thing to do as it avoids the stereotype issue. Me personally I couldn't care less if a new ham is/was a CBer as long as he conforms to the way things are on the ham bands and leaves the 11m shenanigans to 11m. Years ago here we had a well established 2m repeater virtually taken over by a bunch of CBers that recently had gotten their ham tickets. Some ran power microphones on their 2m FM radio and over-deviated to the point of insanity. When a ham told them to back off the audio as they were dropping out of the repeater due to overmodulating, they were told to go F themselves. They had a ticket just like he did. They used 10-codes on the bands as well as played music now and then and had the dirties signals heard. Eventually most of them disappeared for one reason or another but that REALLY left a sour taste for CBers getting their ticket around here for a while let me tell you. In the end it really is a case of a few spoiling it for the rest but how do you know how a newbie will be until after he is on the air? That is the reason you get the attitude you see from some hams. [/QUOTE]

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