It's funny you should mention this Marconi. When I was a cell site tech/ radio base station installer, the messes that came about when they let shit get out of hand by letting people that had no business performing the work doing because it was cheaper. Man talk about birds nests, cables ran under and over then through cable and ladder rack as well. I've seen some pretty nasty, piss poor installed and run cables, coax, and other wires. I am Ericsson certified to perform radio base station and switch (Central Office), work as well, and if we had even a diver on a bundle of cables, we would have to rip it out and redo it!! But when they disbanded Ericssson back in 2002 or so, a lot of manpower type employees were used to install millions of dollars worth of cell site equipment and had no frickin idea what they were doing!!! When you would go back a few years later to install new equipment, you had to run all your new cables under the old shit and man it was not fun. Then what was worse is now you have a beautiful new install, cabling perfect and all, and it sticks out like a sore thumb LOL!! Man talk about ridiculous!! Anyway, my rant over now!! I am now in Avionics, certifying transpoders and encoders, and so some other work as well on private smaller aircraft for the most part, and it's the same shit. You would think that would want everything perfect on a plane, but I've seen some that I wouldn't go up in!!! They care more about what the paint looks like LOL!! Anyway, just some other industries that have the same issues. Good day. And I'll get you that thread posted here in a few days. Worked on antenna all day yesterday. I had it tuned perfectly and after putting it up, I believe something was bumped or moved. My R and swr readings went up quite a bit. Well R did. Readings jumped to R=59, X=0, vswr 1.1:1 it was R=52, X=2, vswr 1:1.This was at set freq of 27.405. I suppose the gamma match may have moved. I did leave it loose overnight and then tightened yesterday morning. I should have rechecked it all after I replaced the mast pipe and such. Stupid mistake. I'll get it back down and move gamma match. Shouldn't take much. But anyway, lesson learned. I did however get some stiffer pipe and the antenna slid down into the pipe and isn't mounted on the side so this may have something to do with it as well. Used an 8ft section of line post 1 5/8". The antenna bottom slid very snugly into the pipe and it's actually better as far as I'm concerned. More weight at center and not off to one side. Anyway, I'll post my thread soon and list all my experiences and such so that maybe some one else doesn't have to go through this!!! I'm still learning some things with these antennas. Quite different from ones I'm used to messing with anyway!! Have a good day sir.