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Dude makes a 40 meter vertical


but I still kinda think verticals don't make much sense,I mean correct me if I'm wrong but most people use horizontal right? and if you use a vertical and the other guy uses a horizontal antenna then you are going to loose 20db right off the bat right? so if most people are using horizontal antennas then you are starting off at a loss for contacts... I'm I getting this right?
 
but I still kinda think verticals don't make much sense,I mean correct me if I'm wrong but most people use horizontal right? and if you use a vertical and the other guy uses a horizontal antenna then you are going to loose 20db right off the bat right? so if most people are using horizontal antennas then you are starting off at a loss for contacts... I'm I getting this right?
Not exactly. When signal is bumping against ionosphere layers it's twisting.
Vertical antennas for low bands are simple to build and low cost.
Personally I would raise base of the antenna 5-6m over the ground and make resonant elevated radials. More efficient than lying flat.
I'm using 40m vertical with elevated radials, performing well, I can work NA, SA or pacific easily on SSB or CW.
This vertical can be easily converted to halfsquare I own also, more efficient, lower takeoff angle, no need to use radials.
Mike
 
Verticals for the low bands will allow more DX contacts.

If you would look at the wave length of the low bands, tey to get a dipole up at 1/2 wl for 80 meters.

Forget about 160 meters at 1/2 wl. Beyond the normal amateur recreation funds.

So using a vertical will result in more DX contacts due to lower angle of radiation.

I also agree if it can be a raised vertical then it will be more efficient than a ground mounted.


Take a look at an inverted L for working the low bands. they perform rather well for what it is.
 
Looks like a pretty 'standard' 40 meter vertical, one vertical element and lot's of radials. It should work just dandy (and evidently has for some time). It's also apparent that he used what happened to be available, even if it wasn't the 'best' way of doing it. That's about as normal as it get's, really. It appears to have worked well enough for 30 years even if it wasn't the 'best'. He 'done good'.
- 'Doc
 
I use a Buddistick with an elevated radial and I do quite well on the air.

This is a portable set up, so one radial is quick and easy, like a girl I dated in high school :thumbup:
 

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