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Thank you very much! I didn't want to get stuck using 11 feet 11inch when i actually need 30 feet to get to transmitter. I totally understand 90degrees  phase feeding the 2nd antenna! Going to try this in a stealth location. It would be perfect for what i have in mind. See im in south Florida. On the ocean. I want to transmit west nortwest! This would be perfect! Also going to try a moxon... horizontally polarized it should quiet the noise floor a bit to. Going to put both up at 20 feet. Thats as high as i can go Hoa crap! Any higher they will see it..