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Fantastic barrels on clearance from Bergara.
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DXman
Yes, that's 3100 degrees F. Nine yrs of hard work.
That $95 price is very low indeed, wonder why? They do the "button" method which is what the other top makers do and with the 1:8 twist it's a great bargain for sure.
If you look closely half of the barrels are un-contoured, the rest have either too slow a twist for the heavy beastly bullets that are popular now or they are faster than most people are used to seeing. Hunter's and target shooters are only slightly less superstitious than pro-athletes.LOL
I use Brux, Kriger, Rockcreek cut rifled barrels for my F-Class and High Power competition guns. For my hunting rifles I will use any quality barrel from Douglas, Hart, Shilen, Kriger, Pac Nor, Lothar Walther, Wilson etc..... I can afford to look for great deals on hunting rifles barrels but I pay top dollar for competition barrels.
I have 4 Bergara barrels I installed a .223 barrel on my Dads Savage and out to about 250 yards "limited by range" you can cover a group with a dime. That is shooting prone with front and rear bag with a terrible plastic stock that comes on the Axis from the factory.
So far I have liked what I have seen the inside of the bores are beautiful no tool mark at all. They use button rifling as well but instead of pulling a reamer through they hone the inside before passing the rifling button through.
I am going to build a 30-06 with one soon. The 28 inch 1:8 twist #3 profile in stainless is already crowned. I want to set it up for 210gr hybrids for Elk. A lot of my rifles are rather heavy. Now that my right knee and ankle have had 3 surgeries I am not only losing weight myself but putting my rifles on a diet too!
I am also putting my stocks on a diet. Thinner stocks with lighter wood like Walnut instead of maple.
I think you can make a great barrel with almost any method. The devil is in the details! In fact I would imagine that if any boutique maker could afford the million plus for a modern rotary cold hammer forging machine you could even make match grade with that method. All of the US Armies Sniper barrels have been made this way for a long time. The US Army requires a barrel life with 7,62 NATO of 20,000 rounds. I have never gotten more than 8,000 from any button rifled or cut rifled barrel in 308 Win. The only way to get 20K of life is with cold hammer forging.
Since no one makes a match grade hammer forged barrel blank we really have no clue. The only people that have the gear are large OEM's and well they really do not have time to make a match grade barrel. No large OEM's making bench rest rifles! LOL
I would say this at $95 for a barrel blank that is normaly $270 or more you do not have much to lose. I have paid more than that for barrels of "Unknown" quality from shops going out of business.
I must be blessed because I have never gotten a barrel I could not make shoot!
I use Brux, Kriger, Rockcreek cut rifled barrels for my F-Class and High Power competition guns. For my hunting rifles I will use any quality barrel from Douglas, Hart, Shilen, Kriger, Pac Nor, Lothar Walther, Wilson etc..... I can afford to look for great deals on hunting rifles barrels but I pay top dollar for competition barrels.
I have 4 Bergara barrels I installed a .223 barrel on my Dads Savage and out to about 250 yards "limited by range" you can cover a group with a dime. That is shooting prone with front and rear bag with a terrible plastic stock that comes on the Axis from the factory.
So far I have liked what I have seen the inside of the bores are beautiful no tool mark at all. They use button rifling as well but instead of pulling a reamer through they hone the inside before passing the rifling button through.
I am going to build a 30-06 with one soon. The 28 inch 1:8 twist #3 profile in stainless is already crowned. I want to set it up for 210gr hybrids for Elk. A lot of my rifles are rather heavy. Now that my right knee and ankle have had 3 surgeries I am not only losing weight myself but putting my rifles on a diet too!
I am also putting my stocks on a diet. Thinner stocks with lighter wood like Walnut instead of maple.
I think you can make a great barrel with almost any method. The devil is in the details! In fact I would imagine that if any boutique maker could afford the million plus for a modern rotary cold hammer forging machine you could even make match grade with that method. All of the US Armies Sniper barrels have been made this way for a long time. The US Army requires a barrel life with 7,62 NATO of 20,000 rounds. I have never gotten more than 8,000 from any button rifled or cut rifled barrel in 308 Win. The only way to get 20K of life is with cold hammer forging.
Since no one makes a match grade hammer forged barrel blank we really have no clue. The only people that have the gear are large OEM's and well they really do not have time to make a match grade barrel. No large OEM's making bench rest rifles! LOL
I would say this at $95 for a barrel blank that is normaly $270 or more you do not have much to lose. I have paid more than that for barrels of "Unknown" quality from shops going out of business.
I must be blessed because I have never gotten a barrel I could not make shoot!
Oh I have a 1000m match in June. I will be shooting the first rifle I built for my oldest son to compete with. It was a low cost option for him to start out with and learn to read the wind.
32 inch Brux barrel in Remington 260. #10 MTU barrel profile the barrel alone weights 7.5 to 8lbs. because it is 32 inches not say 26 inches.
I am a much better hunter than target shooter. Hunting burns more calories when you are not on a horse or a quad but punching holes in paper is a lot more fun. Too bad you cannot eat paper! LOL
32 inch Brux barrel in Remington 260. #10 MTU barrel profile the barrel alone weights 7.5 to 8lbs. because it is 32 inches not say 26 inches.
I am a much better hunter than target shooter. Hunting burns more calories when you are not on a horse or a quad but punching holes in paper is a lot more fun. Too bad you cannot eat paper! LOL
DXman
Yes, that's 3100 degrees F. Nine yrs of hard work.
I use to read a lot about everything going on with the sport of precision shooting, I have all the Precision Shooting magazines for the years through the '90's. It's from these magazines that I learned just about everything that I know today.
I have only one rifle that I had made up. I used a factory 22-250 Rem action, had a Shilen 24" SS match installed, action lugs trued. I then added a Jewell trigger and bedded every thing into syn stock.
Now days there are really lots of good barrel makers out there and lots of good smiths to assemble them - Spencer, Jarrett, Hart, Dowling, etc etc. etc....
So what action are you using on the 1000 rig?
I have only one rifle that I had made up. I used a factory 22-250 Rem action, had a Shilen 24" SS match installed, action lugs trued. I then added a Jewell trigger and bedded every thing into syn stock.
Now days there are really lots of good barrel makers out there and lots of good smiths to assemble them - Spencer, Jarrett, Hart, Dowling, etc etc. etc....
So what action are you using on the 1000 rig?
I lost my shirt and sold everything I ever owned trying to keep my first home a few years back. So I am starting over from scratch and my pockets are not deep like they once were. I know what it is to be dirt poor then be wealthy then lose everything!
It is what it is. There is nothing wrong with owning just one rifle! I had rifles that the wood alone was worth over $1500 now I count myself lucky to work with 70+ year old rifles with stocks I have made myself! LOL
I have pushed the limits of competing on a budget! No custom actions for me or insanely high-end wood! LOL
The most important part of a rifle is the quality of the gunsmithing! Second is a barrel, third is stock and last it is reloading. If the rifle is not well-machined nothing else matters! If the barrel is junk nothing else matters. If the stock fit is not good the above is not going to matter you will have a great shoot one day and a terrible shooter the next. Lastly if the above is not in order it is hard to do much with reloading!
A lot of factor guns will shoot fantastic today so long as you keep the barrel cool. The reason we need huge barrels on competition guns is not for the cold bore shot it is so the gun is still shooting well you have to do rapid-fire shooting that is in a timed stage.
One of the reasons I like high power and F-Class is because you have to either shoot off hand or prone with simple bipod or two bags. This means you can not buy youself a win it is not just about the gear.
The 260 above is built on a new unissued Yugo M48 Mauser action. Norma stuff trueing the receiver face, torque shoulder, bolt face, bushing the firing pin, glass bedding the stock, 30 MOA Picatinny rail, lapping the lugs etc. The entire rifle was $148 brand new when my son was a toddler! When my son bought the barrel it was $260 he was 12 at the time now he is 20. I made the stock from a maple tree that was struck by lighting that had been sitting in my Mom and Dad's barn drying out for about 10 years. My son paid for all the machine work and most of the cost of the barrel at the age of 12. In fact he got a job on his own at the age of 12 to support his hobby I had just been fired aka downsized from a large automotive company. Half of my job was sent to Pakistan and half to Canada. In fact his trumpet for band was one I bought for $30 off ebay and then repaired and refinished for him. It was not pretty but it outplayed his rental by a huge margin. I now build Trumpets and occasional a Trombone from time to time about 2-4 a year. It is not my day job just a passion!
If I had not been born poor I prob. never would have learned to repair electronics, build rifles, build trumpets, work on car's and a good many other things! It is amazing what you learn for free with a library card and a desire to learn and do things!
In fact the reason I decided to share the info about BEegara having some nice barrels on clearance is for those that might want to play around with a semi-custom rifle on a beer budget! It is not often you can get a really nice barrel at a low price point!
P.S. I have put more meat on the table with a $50 8mm Mauser bought at a gas station picked out of a barrel of rifles and a single shot $99 12gage from Walmart than you can imagine. One of my dear friends hunts almost exclusively with a Lee Enfield in British 303 and iron sights!
It is what it is. There is nothing wrong with owning just one rifle! I had rifles that the wood alone was worth over $1500 now I count myself lucky to work with 70+ year old rifles with stocks I have made myself! LOL
I have pushed the limits of competing on a budget! No custom actions for me or insanely high-end wood! LOL
The most important part of a rifle is the quality of the gunsmithing! Second is a barrel, third is stock and last it is reloading. If the rifle is not well-machined nothing else matters! If the barrel is junk nothing else matters. If the stock fit is not good the above is not going to matter you will have a great shoot one day and a terrible shooter the next. Lastly if the above is not in order it is hard to do much with reloading!
A lot of factor guns will shoot fantastic today so long as you keep the barrel cool. The reason we need huge barrels on competition guns is not for the cold bore shot it is so the gun is still shooting well you have to do rapid-fire shooting that is in a timed stage.
One of the reasons I like high power and F-Class is because you have to either shoot off hand or prone with simple bipod or two bags. This means you can not buy youself a win it is not just about the gear.
The 260 above is built on a new unissued Yugo M48 Mauser action. Norma stuff trueing the receiver face, torque shoulder, bolt face, bushing the firing pin, glass bedding the stock, 30 MOA Picatinny rail, lapping the lugs etc. The entire rifle was $148 brand new when my son was a toddler! When my son bought the barrel it was $260 he was 12 at the time now he is 20. I made the stock from a maple tree that was struck by lighting that had been sitting in my Mom and Dad's barn drying out for about 10 years. My son paid for all the machine work and most of the cost of the barrel at the age of 12. In fact he got a job on his own at the age of 12 to support his hobby I had just been fired aka downsized from a large automotive company. Half of my job was sent to Pakistan and half to Canada. In fact his trumpet for band was one I bought for $30 off ebay and then repaired and refinished for him. It was not pretty but it outplayed his rental by a huge margin. I now build Trumpets and occasional a Trombone from time to time about 2-4 a year. It is not my day job just a passion!
If I had not been born poor I prob. never would have learned to repair electronics, build rifles, build trumpets, work on car's and a good many other things! It is amazing what you learn for free with a library card and a desire to learn and do things!
In fact the reason I decided to share the info about BEegara having some nice barrels on clearance is for those that might want to play around with a semi-custom rifle on a beer budget! It is not often you can get a really nice barrel at a low price point!
P.S. I have put more meat on the table with a $50 8mm Mauser bought at a gas station picked out of a barrel of rifles and a single shot $99 12gage from Walmart than you can imagine. One of my dear friends hunts almost exclusively with a Lee Enfield in British 303 and iron sights!
8 Fundamental of Accurate Shooting
My Dad was a Drill Sargent for 3 years a Soldier for 20!
- Stance or Platform. Grip. ...
- Stance / Platform. Many instructors focus first on this because it's simple. ...
- Grip. Grip applies to long guns as much as it does to handguns. ...
- Draw / Presentation. ...
- Sight Alignment / Sight Picture. ...
- Trigger Management. ...
- Breathing. ...
- Follow Through.
Most game is taken under 150 yards usually around 75 yards or less. Leading the animal is the hardest thing to learn followed by follow through. Beyond that range ranging and reading the wind is the hardest thing to get a grasp of!