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Have you ever experimented with taking a wire and making several large loops, say 12 feet across in the shape of a hexadecagon, and then spiraling the wire downward so the loops were 10 or so inches apart, having 7 loops in total ? 7 loops would be around 263 feet, that would hit the 80 meter band, if it worked.


Just trying to think outside the box, being close to circular that is