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Homemade CB Base Antennas Using 4' Firestiks

Riverman

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Since I have text and pics on these scattered about in threads where they don't belong, I decided to compile them here. The idea for both came from this article: A Stealthy Homebrew Vertical Dipole Antenna Using Strong Tie "T"'s My thanks to both John and Scott.

Let's start with the GP:

Homemade Ground Plane Using 4' Firestiks

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Materials:

A. One Simpson Strong Tie (6" x 12"). These are available at any Lowe's or Home Depot.
B. Two hose clamps (For attaching antenna bracket to mast)
C. Three 4' Firestik mobile antennas (I used Firestik II's with tunable tips)
D. One PL259 stud mount (I used a Firestik KV-4A)
E. Two lug stud mounts (I used a Firestik KV-4)
F. One PL259 right angle coax connector (male to female).

Instructions:

1. Drill a ½” hole in the center of the 12” length of the strong tie.
2. Make a 90 degree bend so that the 6” length is pointed down (this is what attaches to the mast.)
3. Using a vice, make two bends in the 12” length 3 ½” from each end, leaving 5” across the top. Bend each downward and inward so that the two form a 90 degree angle. This will insure that the radials will be pointing outward at 45 degrees insuring an impendence of about 50 ohms.

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4. Install the PL259 stud mount in the top center hole. This will hold your vertical element. Be sure and use a plastic sleeve with the top portion so the antenna does not contact the metal bracket. Do not use a sleeve between the coaxial connector and the bracket. This will insure the coax’s shield is grounded to the bracket.
5. Attach the Right Angle Coax Connector.
6. Holes for the radials come pre-drilled on the strong tie. Simply install lug studs in them. Be sure and use only one plastic sleeve (or none) on each so the antennas will be in direct contact with the metal bracket.
7. I chose to add a self-tapping screw in one of the small pre-drilled holes to attach a ground wire to which will run to a ground rod.

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All that's left is to screw in the antennas!

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Antennas with only one radial are largely directional (stronger in the direction the radial is pointed.) And while 3 or 4 (or more) radials are recommended for a fully Omni-directional antenna, some say 2 radials are nearly as effective and produce more of an Omni-directional pattern than the 180 degree pattern that might be expected. This is what I've found.

How good does it work? About what you'd expect. Mine sits atop a 15' mast and I'd say its performance is equal to (or a little better than) installing a 4' Firestik in the center of your car's roof, and then hoisting the vehicle 15' in the air.

Now, if you don't have much in the way of locals to talk to (as I don't) then a horizontal dipole might be what you want.

Homemade Dipole Using 4' Firestiks

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Simple to make. Just one piece of angle iron, a "U" bolt with nuts and washers, two 4' Firestiks with stud mounts, and a 90 degree adapter.

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Tuning both this and the ground plane antenna was a snap using the Firestiks' II tunable tips.

Initial readings on the dipole:
CH 1 - 2.0
CH 20 - 1.8
CH 40- 2.2

Final readings with each tip extended 1/2":
CH 1 - 1.3
CH 20 - 1.1
CH 40 - 1.2

I don't use a balun. By running my coax straight down the length of the mast, it is perpendicular to the antenna for more than the suggested 1/4 wave (8.5'), thus providing proper impendance and preventing "RF in the Shack". At least I guess it does. My SWR is great and if I have "RF in the Shack" (as I've so often read about) I don't know it.

Note: I recently revised my dipole bracket by switching to a 6"x6" strong tie, 1.5" wide. I then cut 2" off one end making it 4"x6", and added 2 small "L" brackets in the angle to make it stiffer than the previous bracket. It is also lighter.

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Summary:

If you are looking for something your wife and neighbors won't complain about but still works really well, either of these will fit the bill, depending on your needs. No way are they going to replace a full-sized base station antenna, but if you know what to expect going in, I think you'll be happy with them. I am. Another nice thing--they hardly move in a gale. And the 4' Firestiks are rated 900 watts.

Also, I chose to use 4' Firestiks, but any brand (Everhardts, Wilsons, Francis, etc., and any length (the longer the better) will work.
 
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i was thinking about using 102" whips also hehe

Yep. Those will definitely work better.

On the GP I talked out about 6-7 miles to some truckers. Never found any local base stations in the area for some reason.

On the dipole, I haven't talked to any locals. Just skip. I can hear skip like nobody's business but have had only limited success with them hearing me and my piddly 3 watts. I plan to add an amplified mic and see if that helps. My stock mic barely moves the needle when I talk into it. And I have to look real close so see it.
 
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I think 'playing' with antennas is fun, and informative. Huge number I haven't tried yet, and some really 'odd' ones I have. One thing to remember is that any shortened or miniaturized antenna is always a compromise, will never do what a 'real live' one will. If it fit's your needs, then do it! Big differences between 'adequate' and 'good'... most times.
- 'Doc
 
Update!

Although the above antenna works great, I decided to upgrade to something a little larger as many of you have suggested.

Settled on this: 11 Meter band Half Wave Antenna with 1:1 Balun - Ni4L ANTENNAS & ELECTRONICS

Will be putting it up as an inverted v using my 15' mast and the eave of my house. I know higher is preferable, but that will have to do for now.

And I know I could have built one much cheaper, but am getting this for my birthday. It should be here in a day or two.
 
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yea i love a dipole i set mine up inverted v great local / limited dx..... if you want purely DX try it flat top and it'll get out alot further and if you put a kicker behind it man it'll GET DOWN
 
yea i love a dipole i set mine up inverted v great local / limited dx..... if you want purely DX try it flat top and it'll get out alot further and if you put a kicker behind it man it'll GET DOWN

Truth is, in tuning it for SWR, I got the rule of thumb backwards in my mind and kept cutting well past where I should have. :oops: Rather than solder wire back on, in a huff I tossed the dang thing in the Hefty trash bag in the garage! But not before stealing the W2AU 1:1 balun which I have now placed on my homemade Firestik dipole. Not exactly sure what it's doing for me. My SWR's are a tick lower, but they were dang low to begin with. I do notice that the hair on my neck no longer stands on end when I key my mic though. (y)

This antenna flat gets the job done. Just ask Mr. Jabberwocky on the banks of Otter Lake (or Beaver Lake) (some lake) up Canada way. Soon as my CR577 gets here I'll really be doin' some good. Sure wanted that KL-80 but the consensus is my 4 watts will turn it into a hot plate good only for fryin' eggs. So I passed. Still searching for that 50 watter that takes 4 watts and needs only 10 amps.

Have a good one, 9deuce. I'm gonna heat up my coffee and watch that Chrysler super bowl commercial a few more times. Just can't get enough of Dylan.
 
Truth is, in tuning it for SWR, I got the rule of thumb backwards in my mind and kept cutting well past where I should have. :oops: Rather than solder wire back on, in a huff I tossed the dang thing in the Hefty trash bag in the garage! But not before stealing the W2AU 1:1 balun which I have now placed on my homemade Firestik dipole. Not exactly sure what it's doing for me. My SWR's are a tick lower, but they were dang low to begin with. I do notice that the hair on my neck no longer stands on end when I key my mic though. (y)

This antenna flat gets the job done. Just ask Mr. Jabberwocky on the banks of Otter Lake (or Beaver Lake) (some lake) up Canada way. Soon as my CR577 gets here I'll really be doin' some good. Sure wanted that KL-80 but the consensus is my 4 watts will turn it into a hot plate good only for fryin' eggs. So I passed. Still searching for that 50 watter that takes 4 watts and needs only 10 amps.

Have a good one, 9deuce. I'm gonna heat up my coffee and watch that Chrysler super bowl commercial a few more times. Just can't get enough of Dylan.

most likely adding more power will increase chances of rfi problems. better off improving
the antenna setup.i agree also stick to strickly flatside, thats best for dx. so what
would i do. using your homemade brackets id change out the firesticks for [2] 102 whips
which will make 18 feet . a true halfwave dipole. fiberglass whips should work too.
also if ya have ssb try it i do ALOT better on ssb
 
At this point probably won't be adding power. Don't want to spend a bunch on an amp and new power supply. Would love to have SSB but can't make myself pull the trigger. Am giving thought to the steel whips which I know would be much better. I plan to stay horizontal.

Thanks, hotrod.
 

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