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I dunno about that,you seem to be mixing horizontal beam antennas Vs vertical antennas and horizontal polarization Vs vertical polarization.

That 6 Db ground gain doesn't apply to F layer paths, (or even Es paths).

As far as the F layer (both F1 and F2), the vertical antenna has a lower TOA and will have a better DX skip distance than a horizontal beam when both are at the same height.

A horizontal beam may produce a better SNR than a vertical antenna because it is not affected (as much) by man made noise which is mostly vertically
polarized.

[QUOTE="Road Squawker, post: 663862, member: 17089"] I dunno about that,you seem to be mixing horizontal beam antennas Vs vertical antennas and horizontal polarization Vs vertical polarization. That 6 Db ground gain doesn't apply to F layer paths, (or even Es paths). As far as the F layer (both F1 and F2), the vertical antenna has a lower TOA and will have a better DX skip distance than a horizontal beam when both are at the same height. A horizontal beam may produce a better SNR than a vertical antenna because it is not affected (as much) by man made noise which is mostly vertically polarized. [/QUOTE]

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