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HOW MIC HZ AFFECT WHAT RECIVERS HEAR?

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These mics have different elements but hypothetically assume they were both the same. Both are made by yaesu.
With a transceivers audio settings/eq set the same for two mics with different hz ratings what should be expected as far as what's heard on the other end (if any at all)?
One is rated at 100-5000 hz and the other at 30-17000.
 
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What mics?

Deez Mics?

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mics/0287.html

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mics/1359.html

All depends on whether you transmitter is wide enough to transmit wide band audio and the other operators receiver is wide enough to receive ESSB (HiFi SSB) the MD-200A8X mic has a wider audio response and costs more over the MD100A8X mic in part due to that fact.

Wider the audio bandwidth (Hz) generally the more HiFi like audio will be heard. Sometimes HiFi is not so good when there is a lot of noise present on the band and midrange audio may be heard better.

I really like the sound of the ESSB and HiFi AM operators, but my radio is set up for wide band audio receive and transmit along with a large studio monitor external speaker. You will not hear HiFi audio well on a 3" built in or similar sized external speaker.
 
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What mics?

Deez Mics?

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mics/0287.html

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mics/1359.html

All depends on whether you transmitter is wide enough to transmit wide band audio and the other operators receiver is wide enough to receive ESSB (HiFi SSB) the MD-200A8X mic has a wider audio response and costs more over the MD100A8X mic in part due to that fact.

Wider the audio bandwidth (Hz) generally the more HiFi like audio will be heard. Sometimes HiFi is not so good when there is a lot of noise present on the band and midrange audio may be heard better.

I really like the sound of the ESSB and HiFi AM operators, but my radio is set up for wide band audio receive and transmit along with a large studio monitor external speaker. You will not hear HiFi audio well on a 3" built in or similar sized external speaker.
What mics?

Deez Mics?

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mics/0287.html

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mics/1359.html

All depends on whether you transmitter is wide enough to transmit wide band audio and the other operators receiver is wide enough to receive ESSB (HiFi SSB) the MD-200A8X mic has a wider audio response and costs more over the MD100A8X mic in part due to that fact.

Wider the audio bandwidth (Hz) generally the more HiFi like audio will be heard. Sometimes HiFi is not so good when there is a lot of noise present on the band and midrange audio may be heard better.

I really like the sound of the ESSB and HiFi AM operators, but my radio is set up for wide band audio receive and transmit along with a large studio monitor external speaker. You will not hear HiFi audio well on a 3" built in or similar sized external speaker.
You hit the nail on the head. The mics I was referring to were the 100 a8x and MD 200.
I tend to be verbose and should've ask what difference is made by mics with a wider hz rating.
I've an ft 950 and it has a parametric equalizer built in and is capable of operating 3 khz wide bandwidth.
I've no interest in using a studio mic or outbound eq and will be going with either the 100 a8x or MD 200.
Any advice on the pluses and minuses of these mics when being used with an ft 950 would be appreciated.
I normally go with the idea that if it's more expensive it's better but I'm not sure if this is the best way to choose a mic for an hf.
For a cb radio especially the older one's I think the more pricier amplified one is a no brainier. I know I don't want to use the yaesu hand mic that came included with the transceivers.
I've hear hf's that sounded great with the hand mic that was supplied with it but I prefer desk mics and will be purchasing one for my ft 950.
Wheather it will be the MD 200, 100 a8x or another yaesu desk mic I'm not sure but I will be getting a desk mic. If there's a brand that's no yaesu that would and does make an excellent match for an ft 950 I'm open to all advice. Thanks 73
 
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...I normally go with the idea that if it's more expensive it's better...

Contrary to what many people think.

some really inexpensive mics can sound as good (if not better) than some really expensive (can you say Bob Heil) mics.

its kinda like antennas, some people can hear ya,..... until you tell 'em you are on a G5RV,................Jr.;);)
 
Usually - but not always - a wide range freq response with a mic will allow for a flatter, more natural sound transmit sound. However, the filters in radios will limit the response range at the upper and lower ends. But it will still sound more natural, so long as the range of the mic's response shows a flat response (no large gain in he high, medium, or low freq). The mic circuit built into most radios also limit response, so there is room for little - but usable - change in the overall response if modified.
 
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Contrary to what many people think.

some really inexpensive mics can sound as good (if not better) than some really expensive (can you say Bob Heil) mics.

its kinda like antennas, some people can hear ya,..... until you tell 'em you are on a G5RV,................Jr.;);)

Or you think your G5RV Jr. gets out good until you try a REAL antenna. ;)
 
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I've no interest in using a studio mic or outbound eq and will be going with either the 100 a8x or MD 200.
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Those two mics are basically "studio" mics on a stand with a ptt. Alternatively, the nice part about having studio mic on a boom (which can be made from a cheapo lamp from Office Depot) is that you can work the mic close, and keep your gain levels down and avoid getting noise from fans, tv's, whatever. There is a term called proximity effect, and you can get "too" close to the mic and affect the response. If you follow the manufacturer's advice, you can get all that figured out pretty quickly. To me, the 200 is over priced and really funky looking... but that's just me!

73,
Brett
 
To me, the 200 is over priced and really funky looking... but that's just me!

I am not a fan of either (having owned the 100)
I'll take the sound of a Heil Gold Elite or GM5 or Pro 781 or PR40...
Audio Technica T1000 HE / Shure SM 58 / or similar AKG mic anyday...
Over either of those...Alot depends on the person's voice characteristics.
All the Best
Gary
 
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AKG D58 = 7 to 10000 Hz
Hypercardioid microphone for use in noisy environments; small and inconspicuous;
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The D58 is small and inconspicuous, extremely rugged noise-canceling microphone.
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Electro Voice 602t = 300 to 5,000 Hz
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All my radios pass up to 4000 hertz before tapering off. Unless your rig does the same, you won't be able to hear those highs. Most rigs pass up to 3000 hertz before tapering off.
 

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