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I understand about a model not being available in all the editors DB. I watched the sign (-) real close and I think I have the model's input into my wires description window done correctly, but the model still fails.

I get errors that I think are similar to what you noted with my model the other day. As noted below I get 3 segment minor errors and a critical error. Also note that the longest wire in the model, for the radiator wire #11, has only 1 segment in your model. Is this right that the radials have 25 segments for 9', and the longer radiator only has 1 segment for over 20' feet?

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I regret a little bring up the subject of Auto Segmentation in this thread. It is a good subject DB, that maybe you and I could hash out, as to differences in the software in another thread. But new', the cat is out of the bag now, so here I go discussing segments anyway.

I watched this carefully, but here is my wires descriptions...maybe you can see some error that I am missing.

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I tried to be careful and I agree this is difficult data entry.

Thanks for the model, but I'm not sure what frequency you used with your model. So, I entered you numbers and had Eznec set at 27.205 mhz. Is this a problem?

I'm not sure about how 4Nec2 works on your end using Auto Segments, but when I set Eznec up to do a model and I want to use Wavelength as a rule for dimensions...I activate this using the Units feature. This sets the units of measure for the dimensions to a % of wavelength I believe. It also does the dimensions in wavelength, but in Eznec this is a function for dimensions...not for segments.

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Here is a pattern of my I-10K w match 36' with my idea for segmentation.
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Here is the same I-10K antenna pattern as noted above, but I changed the segmentation to conservative.
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This is the skewing I was talking about that resulted in the model after I changed the segments form my scheme to Eznec's idea of conservative.

Are we talking apples and oranges again?

Are you possibly talking about Units here and not Segments?

This is what I would expect also. I also tested a CFHW dipole that had a good pattern and match where the results indicated what science says we should see with a model. There was no skewing when I changed the segments from my scheme to conservative or minimum.

How do you want this file...in an exe of the whole model, or just an image of the wires description?

<blockquote data-quote="Marconi" data-source="post: 565789" data-attributes="member: 903">I understand about a model not being available in all the editors DB. I watched the sign (-) real close and I think I have the model&#039;s input into my wires description window done correctly, but the model still fails.I get errors that I think are similar to what you noted with my model the other day. As noted below I get 3 segment minor errors and a critical error. Also note that the longest wire in the model, for the radiator wire #11, has only 1 segment in your model. Is this right that the radials have 25 segments for 9&#039;, and the longer radiator only has 1 segment for over 20&#039; feet?[ATTACH=full]19051[/ATTACH]I regret a little bring up the subject of Auto Segmentation in this thread. It is a good subject DB, that maybe you and I could hash out, as to differences in the software in another thread. But new&#039;, the cat is out of the bag now, so here I go discussing segments anyway.I watched this carefully, but here is my wires descriptions...maybe you can see some error that I am missing.[ATTACH=full]19052[/ATTACH]I tried to be careful and I agree this is difficult data entry.Thanks for the model, but I&#039;m not sure what frequency you used with your model. So, I entered you numbers and had Eznec set at 27.205 mhz. Is this a problem?I&#039;m not sure about how 4Nec2 works on your end using Auto Segments, but when I set Eznec up to do a model and I want to use Wavelength as a rule for dimensions...I activate this using the Units feature. This sets the units of measure for the dimensions to a % of wavelength I believe. It also does the dimensions in wavelength, but in Eznec this is a function for dimensions...not for segments.[ATTACH=full]19053[/ATTACH]Here is a pattern of my I-10K w match 36&#039; with my idea for segmentation.[ATTACH=full]19054[/ATTACH]Here is the same I-10K antenna pattern as noted above, but I changed the segmentation to conservative.[ATTACH=full]19055[/ATTACH]This is the skewing I was talking about that resulted in the model after I changed the segments form my scheme to Eznec&#039;s idea of conservative.Are we talking apples and oranges again?Are you possibly talking about Units here and not Segments?This is what I would expect also. I also tested a CFHW dipole that had a good pattern and match where the results indicated what science says we should see with a model. There was no skewing when I changed the segments from my scheme to conservative or minimum.How do you want this file...in an exe of the whole model, or just an image of the wires description?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marconi, post: 565789, member: 903"] I understand about a model not being available in all the editors DB. I watched the sign (-) real close and I think I have the model's input into my wires description window done correctly, but the model still fails. I get errors that I think are similar to what you noted with my model the other day. As noted below I get 3 segment minor errors and a critical error. Also note that the longest wire in the model, for the radiator wire #11, has only 1 segment in your model. Is this right that the radials have 25 segments for 9', and the longer radiator only has 1 segment for over 20' feet? [ATTACH=full]19051[/ATTACH] I regret a little bring up the subject of Auto Segmentation in this thread. It is a good subject DB, that maybe you and I could hash out, as to differences in the software in another thread. But new', the cat is out of the bag now, so here I go discussing segments anyway. I watched this carefully, but here is my wires descriptions...maybe you can see some error that I am missing. [ATTACH=full]19052[/ATTACH] I tried to be careful and I agree this is difficult data entry. Thanks for the model, but I'm not sure what frequency you used with your model. So, I entered you numbers and had Eznec set at 27.205 mhz. Is this a problem? I'm not sure about how 4Nec2 works on your end using Auto Segments, but when I set Eznec up to do a model and I want to use Wavelength as a rule for dimensions...I activate this using the Units feature. This sets the units of measure for the dimensions to a % of wavelength I believe. It also does the dimensions in wavelength, but in Eznec this is a function for dimensions...not for segments. [ATTACH=full]19053[/ATTACH] Here is a pattern of my I-10K w match 36' with my idea for segmentation. [ATTACH=full]19054[/ATTACH] Here is the same I-10K antenna pattern as noted above, but I changed the segmentation to conservative. [ATTACH=full]19055[/ATTACH] This is the skewing I was talking about that resulted in the model after I changed the segments form my scheme to Eznec's idea of conservative. Are we talking apples and oranges again? Are you possibly talking about Units here and not Segments? This is what I would expect also. I also tested a CFHW dipole that had a good pattern and match where the results indicated what science says we should see with a model. There was no skewing when I changed the segments from my scheme to conservative or minimum. How do you want this file...in an exe of the whole model, or just an image of the wires description? [/QUOTE]

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