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IF no one minds I'll inject this...
if a 50 ohm load shows low SWR on a meter - I hope we're not considering the Dummy load as Self-resonate.

Bless you...

Because of this - many consider the viewpoint of 1/4 LENGTH as being resonate - even though there's 75% of the other stuff is still missing...

So yes, along comes the coax and the counterpoise to the rescue ...
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What I find interesting; as this evolves, as we "build this antenna" the SWR then tends to be a correlation to the Feed point impedance - as you adjust the opposing elements' ANGLE the shield is connected to - you can obtain the "low SWR" oriented like I had shown earlier - apply the notion that both elements are 1/4 wave in LENGTH. You and your antenna, in free air, you can acheive LOW SWR not by changing length - but by changing ASPECT (orientation) of the elements to each other.

Oops, better add this...

Center-Fed - of course...

<blockquote data-quote="Handy Andy" data-source="post: 776043" data-attributes="member: 52309">IF no one minds I&#039;ll inject this...<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">if a 50 ohm load shows low SWR on a meter - I hope we&#039;re not considering the Dummy load as Self-resonate.</li>
</ul>Bless you...Because of this - many consider the viewpoint of 1/4 LENGTH as being resonate - even though there&#039;s 75% of the other stuff is still missing...So yes, along comes the coax and the counterpoise to the rescue ...[ATTACH=full]48042[/ATTACH]What I find interesting; as this evolves, as we &quot;build this antenna&quot; the SWR then tends to be a correlation to the Feed point impedance - as you adjust the opposing elements&#039; ANGLE the shield is connected to - you can obtain the &quot;low SWR&quot; oriented like I had shown earlier - apply the notion that both elements are 1/4 wave in LENGTH.&nbsp; You and your antenna, in free air, you can acheive LOW SWR not by changing length - but by changing ASPECT (orientation) of the elements to each other.Oops, better add this...Center-Fed - of course...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Handy Andy, post: 776043, member: 52309"] IF [I]no[/I] one minds I'll inject this... [LIST] [*]if a 50 ohm load shows low SWR on a meter - I hope we're not considering the Dummy load as Self-resonate. [/LIST] Bless you... Because of this - many consider the viewpoint of 1/4 LENGTH as being resonate - even though there's 75% of the other stuff is still missing... So yes, along comes the coax and the counterpoise to the rescue ... [CENTER][ATTACH=full]48042[/ATTACH][/CENTER] What I find interesting; as this evolves, as we "build this antenna" the SWR then tends to be a correlation to the Feed point impedance - as you adjust the opposing elements' ANGLE the shield is connected to - you can obtain the "low SWR" oriented like I had shown earlier - apply the notion that both elements are 1/4 wave in LENGTH. You and your antenna, in free air, you can acheive LOW SWR not by changing length - but by changing ASPECT (orientation) of the elements to each other. Oops, better add this... Center-Fed - of course... [/QUOTE]

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