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Oh please.....spare me the "you're only picking on me and nobody else" routine. Apparently you have not seen much in your 2 1/2 years here and only 3 posts as of the other day. If you don't like "to see this kind of culture anywhere" you are going to have a REALLY hard time on the internet discussion forums and social media then. That's the problem today......nobody can make a joking comment about something without offending someone. Too bad. Well I don't like the comment you made referring to grounding and shielding as "crap". I guess that's the former occupation I had for 22 years coming out in me. I saw for myself what PROPER grounding and shielding does when I was in commercial broadcasting dealing with everything from audio up to 1.7GHz. We had large toroids on the incoming coaxial and hardline cables for lightning protection as well as on the power lines for the same reason. That was it. PROPER single point grounds using wide copper flashing were used along with shielded audio and control lines. No toroids anywhere else in the systems whether AM or FM transmitter sites and never an issue. Those very same grounding techniques used at an AM site can be implemented in a typical amateur station with minimal cost if you do it right the first time. It is far from crap to do it that way. My own amateur station has six ground rods at the tower base......two for each leg.....and all connected together at the base. Transmission lines are grounded at point of entry and the station ground is tied into the main electrical service ground to create a single ground point to eliminate current flow from one ground to the other during a lightning strike event where the charge flows outward thru the ground creating a difference in potential between two distant ground points. Any audio lines or control lines I use are shielded. The control line to the remote coax switch is shielded 6-wire. Again no toroids anywhere. Will I ever HAVE to install some? Maybe and if Ineed too I will but for now things are great and there is no RFI at all.

<blockquote data-quote="Captain Kilowatt" data-source="post: 665919" data-attributes="member: 39"><p>Oh please.....spare me the &quot;you&#039;re only picking on me and nobody else&quot; routine.&nbsp; Apparently you have not seen much in your 2 1/2 years here and only 3 posts as of the other day.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t like &quot;to see this kind of culture anywhere&quot; you are going to have a REALLY hard time on the internet discussion forums and social media then.&nbsp; That&#039;s the problem today......nobody can make a joking comment about something without offending someone. Too bad. Well I don&#039;t like the comment you made referring to grounding and shielding as &quot;crap&quot;. I guess that&#039;s the former occupation I had for 22 years coming out in me. I saw for myself what PROPER grounding and shielding does when I was in commercial broadcasting dealing with everything from audio up to 1.7GHz. We had large toroids on the incoming coaxial and hardline cables for lightning protection as well as on the power lines for the same reason. That was it. PROPER single point grounds using wide copper flashing were used along with shielded audio and control lines. No toroids anywhere else in the systems whether AM or FM transmitter sites and never an issue. Those very same grounding techniques used at an AM site can be implemented in a typical amateur station with minimal cost if you do it right the first time. It is far from crap to do it that way. My own amateur station has six ground rods at the tower base......two for each leg.....and all connected together at the base. Transmission lines are grounded at point of entry and the station ground is tied into the main electrical service ground to create a single ground point to eliminate current flow from one ground to the other during a lightning strike event where the charge flows outward thru the ground creating a difference in potential between two distant ground points. Any audio lines or control lines I use are shielded. The control line to the remote coax switch is shielded 6-wire. Again no toroids anywhere. Will I ever HAVE to install some? Maybe and if Ineed too I will but for now things are great and there is no RFI at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Captain Kilowatt, post: 665919, member: 39"] Oh please.....spare me the "you're only picking on me and nobody else" routine. Apparently you have not seen much in your 2 1/2 years here and only 3 posts as of the other day. If you don't like "to see this kind of culture anywhere" you are going to have a REALLY hard time on the internet discussion forums and social media then. That's the problem today......nobody can make a joking comment about something without offending someone. Too bad. Well I don't like the comment you made referring to grounding and shielding as "crap". I guess that's the former occupation I had for 22 years coming out in me. I saw for myself what PROPER grounding and shielding does when I was in commercial broadcasting dealing with everything from audio up to 1.7GHz. We had large toroids on the incoming coaxial and hardline cables for lightning protection as well as on the power lines for the same reason. That was it. PROPER single point grounds using wide copper flashing were used along with shielded audio and control lines. No toroids anywhere else in the systems whether AM or FM transmitter sites and never an issue. Those very same grounding techniques used at an AM site can be implemented in a typical amateur station with minimal cost if you do it right the first time. It is far from crap to do it that way. My own amateur station has six ground rods at the tower base......two for each leg.....and all connected together at the base. Transmission lines are grounded at point of entry and the station ground is tied into the main electrical service ground to create a single ground point to eliminate current flow from one ground to the other during a lightning strike event where the charge flows outward thru the ground creating a difference in potential between two distant ground points. Any audio lines or control lines I use are shielded. The control line to the remote coax switch is shielded 6-wire. Again no toroids anywhere. Will I ever HAVE to install some? Maybe and if Ineed too I will but for now things are great and there is no RFI at all. [/QUOTE]

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