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hot an bored. so i decided to temp mount an old radio shack sputnik antenna (1/4 wave with radials) on the car as close to the same height of the mag mount thats on there already and try a test hitting some outlying repeaters. the mag mount is centered in the roof. sputnik was on the side. mag mount did better. so i raised the sputnik 4ft higher than the mag mount. at Of course the sputnik did better at the higher mount. On that repeater i showed 2 s-units more. so on to the next idea i suppose.