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You guys just don't get it. Maxwell is talking about free space models if he is comparing something to and isotropic. Real Earth makes a big difference to those results, and there the differences are minimal.

Well NB, like I've commented before, sometimes we find ourselves chasing our own tail, with numbers all over the place. I would guess that Maxwell might be the best source considering..... I used Jay's formulas.

You will note in my original post of model #2, the hand written notes, the antenna worked out to be 263.25" overall length from the bottom of wire #2 to the tip of wire #3, not including the top hat. Regardless of the math or the number, this model tuned out to that length to get the nice match it shows, which is almost perfect, and far from what a 5/8 radiator with horizontal 1/4 radials and no matcher will show, SWR over 20.0:1.

Excuse my notes all over the image.

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<blockquote data-quote="Marconi" data-source="post: 343698" data-attributes="member: 903">You guys just don&#039;t get it. Maxwell is talking about free space models if he is comparing something to and isotropic. Real Earth makes a big difference to those results, and there the differences are minimal.&nbsp;Well NB, like I&#039;ve commented before, sometimes we find ourselves chasing our own tail, with numbers all over the place. I would guess that Maxwell might be the best source considering..... I used Jay&#039;s formulas.&nbsp;You will note in my original post of model #2, the hand written notes, the antenna worked out to be 263.25&quot; overall length from the bottom of wire #2 to the tip of wire #3, not including the top hat. Regardless of the math or the number, this model tuned out to that length to get the nice match it shows, which is almost perfect, and far from what a 5/8 radiator with horizontal 1/4 radials and no matcher will show, SWR over 20.0:1. &nbsp;Excuse my notes all over the image.&nbsp;[ATTACH]6405[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marconi, post: 343698, member: 903"] You guys just don't get it. Maxwell is talking about [B][I]free space models if he is comparing something to and isotropic.[/I][/B] Real Earth makes a big difference to those results, and there the differences are minimal. Well NB, like I've commented before, sometimes we find ourselves chasing our own tail, with numbers all over the place. I would guess that Maxwell might be the best source considering..... I used Jay's formulas. You will note in my original post of model #2, the hand written notes, the antenna worked out to be 263.25" overall length from the bottom of wire #2 to the tip of wire #3, not including the top hat. Regardless of the math or the number, this model tuned out to that length to get the nice match it shows, which is almost perfect, and far from what a 5/8 radiator with horizontal 1/4 radials and no matcher will show, SWR over 20.0:1. Excuse my notes all over the image. [ATTACH]6405.vB[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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