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Well this whole thread has been exceptionally informative. Many thanks to all the commentors.

My Moxon is about to be built for 11 meters. Ain't this fun.

BTW, I put together a dipole inverted V for my first build a couple of weeks ago. Hung it in a tree about 26' to the center point with the legs at a 45 degree angle down from the horizontal plane. It seems to out talk and out hear the Tram 1498 on my roof.

Thanks guys, I have enjoyed the whole thread.