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yeah sometimes I wonder as well ? 5 to 20 with 100% audio is nice (no box) .......you want a run a box that looks good at a 1 watt drive so now your swing'in 4 with the 100% audio ? or 1 Swing'in 20 drive'in the box ? Now ....it's a lie right ?(the power that the npc/swing kits give the radios into the box ?) because the audio goes off the scale because there is truly no such thing as anything over 100% modulation !! I understand that much !! ......OK ....So the guy doesn't run a power mic and keeps his audio down where it sounds clean to ones ear (not a scope) ......but yet when he does that he tends to lose the swing of the npc/sk all the same .......right ? .....so how much more of a differance is there after one turns his damned audio down to sound as good as he can to the receiving station with a npc/sk mod ? .......Case in point ...friend has a swing kit in his 29 cobra ,he uses a stock mic and a trb-1 echo board set just right .....when he has his audio set at 10 o-clock on his mic gain he sounds sweet !! anything over that ...he will sound like hammered poo poo (distoration) !! ......10 0-clock on any mic gain really isn't that much is it ? especially with a stock mic ! ......Guys like what they like .....it doesn't matter if I say ..hey dude !! your losing power !!! Why he says ? you tell them and they could care less !!! as far as a radio doing 2 to 20 with 100% modulation ........I don't think that is possible is it ? .......if it were at 100% it would be doing 2 to 8 I believe the math is ? ......all's that I have been taught is that anything over 100% audio is lose of power ........How much ? might truly be the question ? especially if one is running 1K on the other end of that swing'in like crazy radio .....How much would be the question ? .....enough for the operator to change his or her ways on how they run there equipment ? ......Help me understand better here if at all possible ? .....Does the S-9 do 2 to 52 with 100% modulation ??? if so .....please explain.