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Bob, I noticed the antenna patterns show the currents in the at the bottom of the top 1/2 wave radiator where the phase change happens is well above the loop. IMO this effect is similar to the bottom 1/8 wave on a 5/8 wave. This out of phase portion pushed the high angle lobe higher.

I'd think that if Vortex did discover something to help solve this distortion in the pattern issue and they were using Eznec+...that would be enough. IMO however, it looks like that was not enough of a benefit just to improve the pattern...they had to boost the gain to cater to the CB world.

If you look back at the older thread on the M2 you can see my models look very close to the model, item for item, that they posted. As best I recall, I ran a free space models to check the Average Gain results and I fixed my model accordingly...in order to show a more accurate model. Vortex didn't show us that and left the overstated gain as a sales pitch. Looks to me like a lot of folks believe that hype.

Did I post that Vortex is out of business?

<blockquote data-quote="Marconi" data-source="post: 751884" data-attributes="member: 903">Bob, I noticed the antenna patterns show the currents in the&nbsp; at the bottom of the top 1/2 wave radiator where the phase change happens is well above the loop. IMO this effect is similar to the bottom 1/8 wave on a 5/8 wave. This out of phase portion pushed the high angle lobe higher. I&#039;d think that if Vortex did discover something to help solve this distortion in the pattern issue and they were using Eznec+...that would be enough. IMO however, it looks like that was not enough of a benefit just to improve the pattern...they had to boost the gain to cater to the CB world.If you look back at the older thread on the M2 you can see my models look very close to the model, item for item, that they posted. As best I recall, I ran a free space models to check the Average Gain results and I fixed my model accordingly...in order to show a more accurate model. Vortex didn&#039;t show us that and left the overstated gain as a sales pitch. Looks to me like a lot of folks believe that hype.Did I post that Vortex is out of business?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marconi, post: 751884, member: 903"] [SIZE=5] Bob, I noticed the antenna patterns show the currents in the at the bottom of the top 1/2 wave radiator where the phase change happens is well above the loop. IMO this effect is similar to the bottom 1/8 wave on a 5/8 wave. This out of phase portion pushed the high angle lobe higher. [/SIZE] [B][SIZE=5]I'd think that if Vortex did discover something to help solve this distortion in the pattern issue and they were using Eznec+...that would be enough. IMO however, it looks like that was not enough of a benefit just to improve the pattern...they had to boost the gain to cater to the CB world.[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=5] If you look back at the older thread on the M2 you can see my models look very close to the model, item for item, that they posted. As best I recall, I ran a free space models to check the Average Gain results and I fixed my model accordingly...in order to show a more accurate model. Vortex didn't show us that and left the overstated gain as a sales pitch. Looks to me like a lot of folks believe that hype.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=5][B]Did I post that Vortex is out of business?[/B][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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