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Eddie,

I tried various tube & rod combinations on both antennas,


The 3/8 the gamma rod does extend beyond the dogbone about 100mm,


i will be swapping the rod for a shorter rod later because it looks better, no other reason,


The rod on the 1/4wave cone is cut so it does not extend beyond the dogbone but it did before i swapped the rod,


The rod beyond the dogbone does not seem to make much if any difference to tuning.