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thanks for the input, im not putting anything in my car execpt maybe my uniden pro510xl, im interested in have some sort of base that i can play around with trying my hand at skip on the legal channels for now without putting a ton of $$ in to it. What started this is i dug out an old uniden pro510xl and hooked it up to see if it worked. i made a dipole antenna, and now looking for something with side band or some more power because im not getting out at all.