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I'm not a fan of shorty antennas and won't recommend one. All of them are at a disadvantage to start with no matter where they are mounted.
I do agree that mounting an antenna -beside- metal isn't the best idea in the world, but sometimes it's necessary. Any 'extra' height from the side of a vehicle to that vehicle's roof is pretty well a waste of time. It isn't that the thing is any higher, it's that it isn't 'shielded' or obstructed by metal, that's the biggy. Metal under an antenna has the least obstructive affect on that antenna's behavior. But, sometimes that's just not possible.
So, while the antenna's present location may not be optimal, it's better than nothing by a long shot. Not getting the 'performance' you want? Sorry 'bout that. And trying to use "range" as a measure of how well an antenna is performing on HF is ridiculous. Not too sorry 'bout that...
- 'Doc

<blockquote data-quote="W5LZ" data-source="post: 462272" data-attributes="member: 129">I&#039;m not a fan of shorty antennas and won&#039;t recommend one.&nbsp; All of them are at a disadvantage to start with no matter where they are mounted.I do agree that mounting an antenna -beside- metal isn&#039;t the best idea in the world, but sometimes it&#039;s necessary.&nbsp; Any &#039;extra&#039; height from the side of a vehicle to that vehicle&#039;s roof is pretty well a waste of time.&nbsp; It isn&#039;t that the thing is any higher, it&#039;s that it isn&#039;t &#039;shielded&#039; or obstructed by metal, that&#039;s the biggy.&nbsp; Metal under an antenna has the least obstructive affect on that antenna&#039;s behavior.&nbsp; But, sometimes that&#039;s just not possible.So, while the antenna&#039;s present location may not be optimal, it&#039;s better than nothing by a long shot.&nbsp; Not getting the &#039;performance&#039; you want?&nbsp; Sorry &#039;bout that.&nbsp; And trying to use &quot;range&quot; as a measure of how well an antenna is performing on HF is ridiculous.&nbsp; Not too sorry &#039;bout that...&nbsp;- &#039;Doc</blockquote>

[QUOTE="W5LZ, post: 462272, member: 129"] I'm not a fan of shorty antennas and won't recommend one. All of them are at a disadvantage to start with no matter where they are mounted. I do agree that mounting an antenna -beside- metal isn't the best idea in the world, but sometimes it's necessary. Any 'extra' height from the side of a vehicle to that vehicle's roof is pretty well a waste of time. It isn't that the thing is any higher, it's that it isn't 'shielded' or obstructed by metal, that's the biggy. Metal under an antenna has the least obstructive affect on that antenna's behavior. But, sometimes that's just not possible. So, while the antenna's present location may not be optimal, it's better than nothing by a long shot. Not getting the 'performance' you want? Sorry 'bout that. And trying to use "range" as a measure of how well an antenna is performing on HF is ridiculous. Not too sorry 'bout that... - 'Doc [/QUOTE]

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