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The Nine to Five Man

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Hello,

I have a problem with a local group of lowlifes in the area selling drugs and need a communication solution which is not via cellphone as texts are saved and audio can be listened in on easily .... I was looking at a uhf/vhf radio with a scramble function....from china ....which is better vhf....uhf ???

these will be used in town mainly some type of scramble function is an absolute must....those grs radios I hear with privacy codes are not secure is this true?

I am not law enforcement but need a secure cheap solution which cannot be recieved by the average joe and want access to repeaters in an emergency situation/disaster...ect

anyone feel free to chime in I have a EE background and understand the basics but have been away from the books for a few year so any help would be greatly appreciatted.....bythe way these are people on medicaid selling oxy's ect ect to kids I'm going to make them uncomfortable enough to move or get them cuaght and arrested .....police budget gutted no patrol officers ect ect ....

HELP
 

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32 views and no responses ..........I can figure it out on my own but I'd rather have some guidance I always wanted to get licensed for hamm just never had the money or time :( once i get the trash clean up I will so come on guys a lil help here :)
 
Let me see here.

You want to purchase a set of handheld radios so you and your buddies can play grown up hall monitor and you wonder why no one is helping you out with your questions?
 
To operate on amateur bands, 144 - 148 mhz or 420 - 450 mhz, you need your amateur radio license.

To operate on GMRS frequencies / power settings, you need a GMRS license.

The only range you can legally operate on without a license is 2w on MURS:
151.820
151.880
151.940
154.570
154.600

These radio must be FCC type accepted.

The Puxing PX777 is FCC type accepted, and the VHF version can operate on these frequencies. It has an inversion type voice scrambler. This type of encryption is similar to that used by Motorola's early attempts at easy encryption.
 
Let me clarify

I want radios that I can use later in a licensed manner in the hobby once I get the trash locked up ........can you give me some options which are both uhf/vhf and a decent deal with some type of decent encryption....the inversion I heard is easily cracked is this true?

I would like encryption adjustable wattage 2-5 uhf/vhf cost 50-100
 
I think the FCC regs state that speech much be in plain English. If you get a tech license, you can use packet/digital radio legally on several bandwidths, which will require a laptop computer to send/receive messages.

What you are asking is to help you carry out clandestine surveillance - on your version/'word' and take on the situation - and rely on YOUR word as to who those individuals that are allegedly 'dirt bags'.

Maybe they are; and maybe they are not.
It is no concern of this forum and what we do here.

You can do what you want with a cellphone that uses a conference call arrangements.

If you want to make a police report; that would be the RIGHT thing to do. Otherwise, you are attempting to get info to carry out illegal surveillance, and this forum won't back you on this. You cannot make us or entice members here into becoming a part of your illegal actions.

Perhaps I should put this another way:
"Buzz Off".

Sorry . . .
 
No encryption of any type allowed on amateur frequencies per FCC regs. There may be some types of encryption allowed in other services, but I doubt it is allowed on MURS frequencies (I'll have to double check that one). There are no repeaters that you will be able to access without a license except for GMRS, and you still need an inexpensive license for that. I have my doubts on whether or not there are any GMRS repeaters around, but at least you only have to buy that license, not study for any tests. I'm pretty sure that voice scramblers or encryption is not legal on any public (MURS, FRS, GMRS) service.

Plain English is not a requirement on amateur bands, except that you must do the regular callsign thing in either English or CW on the voice spectrum.

You're wanting a "secure cheap solution which cannot be recieved by the average joe" and there isn't such a thing. If it's cheap, the average joe already has it. If they're drug dealers, they already have more money than you to listen in or talk on any radio solution you can afford.
 
One other thing: There's no way that I'm going to intentionally help anyone get themselves killed by giving out radio advice. That's the path you're on when you mess with situations like this.
 
Moleculo said:
No encryption of any type allowed on amateur frequencies per FCC regs. There may be some types of encryption allowed in other services, but I doubt it is allowed on MURS frequencies (I'll have to double check that one). There are no repeaters that you will be able to access without a license except for GMRS, and you still need an inexpensive license for that. I have my doubts on whether or not there are any GMRS repeaters around, but at least you only have to buy that license, not study for any tests. I'm pretty sure that voice scramblers or encryption is not legal on any public (MURS, FRS, GMRS) service.

Plain English is not a requirement on amateur bands, except that you must do the regular callsign thing in either English or CW on the voice spectrum.

You're wanting a "secure cheap solution which cannot be recieved by the average joe" and there isn't such a thing. If it's cheap, the average joe already has it. If they're drug dealers, they already have more money than you to listen in or talk on any radio solution you can afford.
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Scrambling On MURS Legal? - The RadioReference.com Forums
 
What's with all this James Bond stuff?

Just get some Carrier Pigeons... You and your narco busting buddies can use your Ovaltine decoder rings.

Sent from my phone.
 
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