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I have a wire inverted v (11 meter) with the feedpoint @ 1/2 wavelength.  No trouble talking local 10 mi+ AM, 20+ SSB.


 Skip-wise SSB have made the UK, Caribbean, Central America, the left coast and lots of points in between. From Kentucky on 30 watts.


For some reason I'm happy with the antenna.


At my previous QTH I had a copper pipe horizontal dipole up 3/4 wavelength that I had zero issues with talking to AM locals on, even mobiles. One local was on a homebrew 1/4 wave vertical 17 miles away.  Skip results were about the same as my current wire v.


It always makes wonder if those who say you can't talk to local verticals on a v or horizontal have ever actually used one.