Well tomorrows the big day, I went and picked up a free PDL II from a gentlemen that had no need for it any more, so tomorrow i plan on putting it up and seeing how it works out for me, only gonna run vertical on it for the time being until i can get another coax and a switch box, but even with running vertical, itll be alot better then the mobile antenna ive been using for teh past 2 weeks, looking forward to the install and looking forward to see the final results as i flip the radio on and hear locals better and hear more stations from further out, had to make a new hub for the drive elements so hopefully that doesnt effect it to much, took and cleaned everything up and paint the fiberglass rodds so the would last a couple of years, hopefully that wont effect it either, a few tubes ahd some bends in them so i got them bent fairly straight again, kinda nervous about putting it up seeing this is my first real antenna, ive had a bandit 2 but that was just a straight vertical stick, it worked pretty decent until a solder joint went bad, looking forward to talking skip once its up in the air, i figure itll be around 35 feet at the most, so well see how it works out for me,,,,thanks mark