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oh I hear you there MBM , I grew up on a 23 channel Cobra 85 Dynascan base ,(you could plug in extra crystals where the ex.speakers jack was and get a lot more funny channels ,that radio did 5 to 15 watts , off an old wilson ground plane antenna with an old beat up d-104 lolly pop (it was really all about the antenna).....that was 1986 for me ...skip was great back then , and I never had any power but the radio at the time , the funny channels surely helped me out ,but back then i could talk to guys 3000 miles away as if they were in my back yard , those were days for me !! and 10 15 minute quso's without a hitch. Made friends all over the states and a few other places else where , still have some of my old letters and q-cards in a box around here somewhere ? not bad for 5 watts huh (-: ....oh it's surely changed quite a bit MBM ....and yeah ,some of those exprt radios will do 200 watts without even trying ...amazing huh !!  I'd like to think i was old school as well MBM , but i still like to mess around a little bit from time to time , it doesn't have to be perfect ,it just has to work. It's just a cb hobby for me ,no more or no less. Peace