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What's that got to do with being or not being an appliance operator? I know of electronic engineers that are appliance operators. Shameful really.The term "appliance operator" does not simply mean one who doesn't know anything about electronics it can also mean one who does nothing with that knowledge and prefers to operate a "shack-in-a-box" kind of station and does nothing other than buy every little thing including coax with the ends already installed because he can't get the job done with his 15 watt pencil iron.An appliance operator is also the person that sends his radio back to the dealer when the fuse blows. Electronic knowledge alone does not exempt one from being an appliance operator.

Anyway, this thread has taken a hard turn away from the original intent and we should get it back on track. Amateur radio has a long and very technical past that was enjoyed by the operators and that will not change for a while yet regardless of technologies. Sure you can buy anything that you want but traditions are going to last a while yet. Before you snicker at traditions think about some traditions that have held fast and true over the past couple hundred years involving the founding of your country. Should we just snicker and scoff at them because technology has changed the way we live? It's a free country and people can do what they want however those that want to do more should at least be encouraged to do so and not pushed aside simply because they want to carry on a tradition. I would be happy if there was a special license class for non-technical people that did not want to have anything to do with electronics at any level. Make it a low power (50 watts) ticket and restricted to maybe 6m and up. With some theory give them HF with 100-500 watts and more advanced theory allow them the legal limit and the right to build equipment.Gee that sounds like the way we do it up here as well as many other countries around the world. IOW you get what you earn and you only have to learn what you want to achieve.

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Now, W1MED is HRO still on Broadway (?) in the little strip mall? I've been to that one many times passing thru N.H. I even ordered an antenna from them one time for my vehicle and hoped to get it before I left on vacation. They had to bring it in from another store and it would not arrive in time before I left so I asked if I could pick it up. The guy, Dave I believe, paused and then said "Well yeah I guess. I'll mark it for you but we don't get many 'Will pick up' orders for VE1's". :laugh:

<blockquote data-quote="Captain Kilowatt" data-source="post: 217814" data-attributes="member: 39">What&#039;s that got to do with being or not being an appliance operator? I know of electronic engineers that are appliance operators. Shameful really.The term &quot;appliance operator&quot; does not simply mean one who doesn&#039;t know anything about electronics it can also mean one who does nothing with that knowledge and prefers to operate a &quot;shack-in-a-box&quot; kind of station and does nothing other than buy every little thing including coax with the ends already installed because he can&#039;t get the job done with his 15 watt pencil iron.An appliance operator is also the person that sends his radio back to the dealer when the fuse blows. Electronic knowledge alone does not exempt one from being an appliance operator.<img src="http://a.imageshack.us/img513/5545/threaddirection.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />Anyway, this thread has taken a hard turn away from the original intent and we should get it back on track. Amateur radio has a long and very technical past that was enjoyed by the operators and that will not change for a while yet regardless of technologies. Sure you can buy anything that you want but traditions are going to last a while yet. Before you snicker at traditions think about some traditions that have held fast and true over the past couple hundred years involving the founding of your country. Should we just snicker and scoff at them because technology has changed the way we live? It&#039;s a free country and people can do what they want however those that want to do more should at least be encouraged to do so and not pushed aside simply because they want to carry on a tradition. I would be happy if there was a special license class for non-technical people that did not want to have anything to do with electronics at any level. Make it a low power (50 watts) ticket and restricted to maybe 6m and up. With some theory give them HF with 100-500 watts and more advanced theory allow them the legal limit and the right to build equipment.Gee that sounds like the way we do it up here as well as many other countries around the world. IOW you get what you earn and you only have to learn what you want to achieve.:bdh:Now, W1MED is HRO still on Broadway (?) in the little strip mall?&nbsp; I&#039;ve been to that one many times passing thru N.H. I even ordered an antenna from them one time for my vehicle and hoped to get it before I left on vacation. They had to bring it in from another store and it would not arrive in time before I left so I asked if I could pick it up. The guy, Dave I believe, paused and then said &quot;Well yeah I guess. I&#039;ll mark it for you but we don&#039;t get many &#039;Will pick up&#039; orders for VE1&#039;s&quot;.&nbsp; :laugh:</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Captain Kilowatt, post: 217814, member: 39"] What's that got to do with being or not being an appliance operator? I know of electronic engineers that are appliance operators. Shameful really.The term "appliance operator" does not simply mean one who doesn't know anything about electronics it can also mean one who does nothing with that knowledge and prefers to operate a "shack-in-a-box" kind of station and does nothing other than buy every little thing including coax with the ends already installed because he can't get the job done with his 15 watt pencil iron.An appliance operator is also the person that sends his radio back to the dealer when the fuse blows. Electronic knowledge alone does not exempt one from being an appliance operator. [IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img513/5545/threaddirection.jpg[/IMG] Anyway, this thread has taken a hard turn away from the original intent and we should get it back on track. Amateur radio has a long and very technical past that was enjoyed by the operators and that will not change for a while yet regardless of technologies. Sure you can buy anything that you want but traditions are going to last a while yet. Before you snicker at traditions think about some traditions that have held fast and true over the past couple hundred years involving the founding of your country. Should we just snicker and scoff at them because technology has changed the way we live? It's a free country and people can do what they want however those that want to do more should at least be encouraged to do so and not pushed aside simply because they want to carry on a tradition. I would be happy if there was a special license class for non-technical people that did not want to have anything to do with electronics at any level. Make it a low power (50 watts) ticket and restricted to maybe 6m and up. With some theory give them HF with 100-500 watts and more advanced theory allow them the legal limit and the right to build equipment.Gee that sounds like the way we do it up here as well as many other countries around the world. IOW you get what you earn and you only have to learn what you want to achieve. :bdh: Now, W1MED is HRO still on Broadway (?) in the little strip mall? I've been to that one many times passing thru N.H. I even ordered an antenna from them one time for my vehicle and hoped to get it before I left on vacation. They had to bring it in from another store and it would not arrive in time before I left so I asked if I could pick it up. The guy, Dave I believe, paused and then said "Well yeah I guess. I'll mark it for you but we don't get many 'Will pick up' orders for VE1's". :laugh: [/QUOTE]

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