Well as you all know I've been expermenting with making dipoles Today I made a dipole out of pvc and wire and it looks promising as far as laying on the floor my swr on channel 1 was 1.4 channel 23, 1.2 and on channel 12 it was 1.3. I knew it wouldn't be much better cause I tuned it for channel 20. Now if once I let the silicon and glue dry thoughrly I will try to get it out tomorrow and see how it works.