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I agree with some of what you say but not all of it. One of the big issues with, as you said over processed and clipped audio, is that most people truly do not know what good sound really is. A large percentage seem to think that the 11m mentality of loud-and-proud is the way to go. The louder they are and the sharper the freq. response they have then the better they will punch through.It sounds like crap most of the time and is very annoying to listen too especially for extended periods of time. On that part we agree. Then again most of those are of the "I am all that matters" crowd. You know the ones. They HAVE to make that contact regardless of how much power they use or who they step on to get it. that mentality will NEVER change regardless of anything else. It is not technical based but rather ego based. As for it being an experimental service,I agree. What I meant above when I said I disagree is that having an amateur license that enables one to experiment is a privilege and not a right. I guess I worded it wrong the first time. As for bandwidth limits. I still think there has to be a limit somewhere. The last thing i would want is to see a proliferation of wideband FM signals cropping up on HF. One of the driving forces behind the movements seems to be to allow for the deletion of sub-bands. We have had no such regulations here in Canada for years and it had never lead to a problem except when some US ham gets pissed that we are using SSB on 14.100 and starts screaming that we are out of band. :laugh: We have bandwidth limitations but for 99.9% of what goes on on the amateur bands it is sufficient. For those very few that want to experiment with non-standard modes or emissions they can get a special license to experiment with those modes.

<blockquote data-quote="Captain Kilowatt" data-source="post: 417440" data-attributes="member: 39"><p>I agree with some of what you say but not all of it. One of the big issues with, as you said over processed and clipped audio, is that most people truly do not know what good sound really is. A large percentage seem to think that the 11m mentality of loud-and-proud is the way to go. The louder they are and the sharper the freq. response they have then the better they will punch through.It sounds like crap most of the time and is very annoying to listen too especially for extended periods of time. On that part we agree. Then again most of those are of the &quot;I am all that matters&quot; crowd. You know the ones. They HAVE to make that contact regardless of how much power they use or who they step on to get it. that mentality will NEVER change regardless of anything else. It is not technical based but rather ego based. As for it being an experimental service,I agree. What I meant above when I said I disagree is that having an amateur license that enables one to experiment is a privilege and not a right. I guess I worded it wrong the first time. As for bandwidth limits. I still think there has to be a limit somewhere. The last thing i would want is to see a proliferation of wideband FM signals cropping up on HF. One of the driving forces behind the movements seems to be to allow for the deletion of sub-bands. We have had no such regulations here in Canada for years and it had never lead to a problem except when some US ham gets pissed that we are using SSB on 14.100&nbsp; and starts screaming that we are out of band.&nbsp; :laugh: We have bandwidth limitations but for 99.9% of what goes on on the amateur bands it is sufficient. For those very few that want to experiment with non-standard modes or emissions they can get a special license to experiment with those modes.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Captain Kilowatt, post: 417440, member: 39"] I agree with some of what you say but not all of it. One of the big issues with, as you said over processed and clipped audio, is that most people truly do not know what good sound really is. A large percentage seem to think that the 11m mentality of loud-and-proud is the way to go. The louder they are and the sharper the freq. response they have then the better they will punch through.It sounds like crap most of the time and is very annoying to listen too especially for extended periods of time. On that part we agree. Then again most of those are of the "I am all that matters" crowd. You know the ones. They HAVE to make that contact regardless of how much power they use or who they step on to get it. that mentality will NEVER change regardless of anything else. It is not technical based but rather ego based. As for it being an experimental service,I agree. What I meant above when I said I disagree is that having an amateur license that enables one to experiment is a privilege and not a right. I guess I worded it wrong the first time. As for bandwidth limits. I still think there has to be a limit somewhere. The last thing i would want is to see a proliferation of wideband FM signals cropping up on HF. One of the driving forces behind the movements seems to be to allow for the deletion of sub-bands. We have had no such regulations here in Canada for years and it had never lead to a problem except when some US ham gets pissed that we are using SSB on 14.100 and starts screaming that we are out of band. :laugh: We have bandwidth limitations but for 99.9% of what goes on on the amateur bands it is sufficient. For those very few that want to experiment with non-standard modes or emissions they can get a special license to experiment with those modes. [/QUOTE]

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