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Yes I can set the model over what Eznec refers to as a Perfect ground type, and remove all other losses due to wire type and plot type, and that changes the feed point match so little as to be insigficiant, like noted below:

 

23.55 +0.04104 with losses and over real Earth

23.44 -0.06411 with no losses and over a Perfect ground type.

 

As I understand the theory...the impedance does not changed unless there are physical changes to the antenna system and bending the wires is quite common.

 

A resonant dipole doesn't change much if setup properly at resonance unless you bend the wires, but a ground plan can be made resonant in many different radial configurations.

 

That is what this project I presented shows. This was what I was thinking, and why I asked if any body sees the ground planes at resonance getting even close to showing 35 ohms of resistance. I also posted a CFD model to show that Eznec can produce a match value that is very close to what theory reports almost all the time.

 

I did not add a mast or feed lines to these models, maybe if those were included we would see the 35 ohms being discussed. Most of the time this subject of a 1/4 wave showing 35 ohms of impedance comes up in conversations about mobiles, and there no body can predict how the ground plane will be involved, and for sure the variables and the weak condition presented by moblies...may all but excluded us from ever seeing a true 35 ohm impedance at the feed point.