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i don't know what to expect in the cst plot eddie, as i don't imagine just one set of currents and don't know how cst would display them,


which theory are you using eddie?,

it sounds like the theory that we only have one set of equal and opposite phase currents flowing in the lower 1/4wave,


it does not sound  like you are using the theory in the arrl open sleeve article,


if you know what is going on eddie you must know what makes the vector different to the antenna described in the arrl and be able to demonstrate with models why the open sleeve radiates in phase and why the vector does not,

it may be obvious to those skillled in the art, please share,


have you modeled the open sleeve antenna as described in the arrl to see if your results match the claims eddie?,


the article gives several length permutations and describes what effects antenna mode impedance & current magnitude and what effects transmission-line mode impedance & current magnitude for comparison,


you could clear up what had cebik so confused about currents to the point that he told me the sleeve could radiate in phase with the upper 1/2wave and that there was more going on in the design than was aparent to most people,


nobody so far has said the article is wrong or tried to explain how the vector is different electrically,


we are stuck on the eznec merrygoround,  or is it as cebik told me.


"pages of meanigless argument such misunderstood antennas can generate"


what is so misunderstood about a j-pole? he tells us all about j-poles and not one word of argument let alone the pages he spoke of, did he understand something you are missing eddie?


oh wait you don't believe Cebik said the things i claimed he told me,

radials can't act like a coaxial structure so he could never have had thoughts of anything that says the sleeve can radiate, which implys i made it up,


but what if he did say the things i claim ( which he did ) , is it possible that he understood something you  are missing ?


or are of the opinion that even if bob was telling the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth about what cebik told him, cebik was talking bullcrap anyway ?