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DB, I have to agree with you now, the model does show to be over real ground, and thus my claim that your model was incorrect is wrong. Good work DB, I think this answers the questions about the S4 design that Donald and Bob have been claiming for a long time

I took a chance on what I though you might have done, and I obviously thought wrong, and in the course of this debate...I said some bad things about my friends.

My apologizes for questioning your work DB.

I am now convinced that you guys solved the mystery about the S4 design, and it does look to have currents on the added wire that would added gain due to CMC...just like Donald has been telling us, and Bob told us about a long time ago.

I also agree that Eznec may not be able to generate a model that shows us what 4Nec2 clearly does. I banked my whole conclusion about an error on the fact that I felt confident that DB had the environmental ground type set on Perfect and not Real ground.

Sorry guys, Old Grampa was wrong.

<blockquote data-quote="Marconi" data-source="post: 498491" data-attributes="member: 903">DB, I have to agree with you now, the model does show to be over real ground, and thus my claim that your model was incorrect is wrong. Good work DB, I think this answers the questions about the S4 design that Donald and Bob have been claiming for a long timeI took a chance on what I though you might have done, and I obviously thought wrong, and in the course of this debate...I said some bad things about my friends.My apologizes for questioning your work DB.I am now convinced that you guys solved the mystery about the S4 design, and it does look to have currents on the added wire that would added gain due to CMC...just like Donald has been telling us, and Bob told us about a long time ago.I also agree that Eznec may not be able to generate a model that shows us what 4Nec2 clearly does. I banked my whole conclusion about an error on the fact that I felt confident that DB had the environmental ground type set on Perfect and not Real ground.Sorry guys, Old Grampa was wrong.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marconi, post: 498491, member: 903"] DB, I have to agree with you now, the model does show to be over real ground, and thus my claim that your model was incorrect is wrong. Good work DB, I think this answers the questions about the S4 design that Donald and Bob have been claiming for a long time [I][B]I took a chance on what I though you might have done, and I obviously thought wrong, and in the course of this debate...I said some bad things about my friends.[/B][/I] My apologizes for questioning your work DB. I am now convinced that you guys solved the mystery about the S4 design, and it does look to have currents on the added wire that would added gain due to CMC...just like Donald has been telling us, and Bob told us about a long time ago. I also agree that Eznec may not be able to generate a model that shows us what 4Nec2 clearly does. [I][B]I banked my whole conclusion about an error on the fact that I felt confident that DB had the environmental ground type set on Perfect and not Real ground.[/B][/I] [I][B][SIZE=5]Sorry guys, Old Grampa was wrong.[/SIZE][/B][/I] [/QUOTE]

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