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RCI 2980 TP3 PLL Osc. off frequency...

Hawkeye351

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Got a 2980 on the desk.
Issue is:

When connecting frequency counter to TP3 to align PLL Offset Oscillators, I'm not getting the proper frequency. Using channel 1 on cb band on AM it should be 16.2700mhz, but instead it's 16.2817mhz and the PLL Offset IF for AM makes only a slight change (16.2817mhz up to 16.2819mhz and no less than16.2813mhz).

The SSB PLL Offset oscillators are off about the same and makes very little change up or down.

The Carrier Offset Oscillators won't show on frequency counter at all through R151 and R102 points, but will zero beat just fine using my monitor radio (yaesu ft-950).

Tested with and without bias board in place.

VCO Voltage is just what it should be at 3.20v, VCO Buffers look fair, not the best but fair.

Everything else on radio works as it should.

AM output:
RF Power all the way up = 8w, swinging to 48w PEP and 12w Average.
RF Power all the way down = 1w, swinging to 25w PEP and 8w Average.

SSB = 40w

Power supply voltage is 14.30v.
10k switch works fine, clarifier slides fine, bands work fine, not hacked up at all. Limiters still intact, nothing clipped or removed.

Frequency on internal counter shows for channel 1 for example 26.977mhz.

All caps on regulator/audio side of board has been replaced.

Has the MC PLL, not the RCI 8719.

I went through this radio last year with y'alls help with great success. It's the 2980 that sat in a dilapidated old shed in the hot and cold for 12years with no use, we (meaning you all and myself) brought it back to life. But now the owner noticed the frequencies shifting off a great deal.

Any ideas guys?
 

I would check the voltage coming out of the clarifier control feeding from the center lug of the Coarse clarifier pot. That would be the front three lugs for Coarse, rear three are Fine.

Makes it sound as if the control has failed and the voltage on that spot won't turn down much below 8 Volts like it should.

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Yes, I got the service manual for this plain jane RCI 2980, and the DX 11B.

Just curious as to why the PLL Offset Oscillators are not affecting frequency as it should, and won't get on frequency.

Working on a 2950DX and cobra 2000 right now til I figure out the issue with the 2980. I'm thinking it's a transistor not feeding enough voltage to the oscillators or a cap is leaking around in that area.

When I get back on this one, then I'm gonna check the clarifier unlock procedure first to see if it was done right and then check the clarifier control.

I already noticed the diode was clipped for the unlock mod but the resistor (which is supposed to be removed also) is still intact.

None of the 3 PLL Offset Oscillators make very much difference when adjusting them. But the Carrier Offset Oscillators work as they should when adjusting them.

Thank you guys for chiming in.
 
Just checked over the clarifier unlock procedure, here is what I found:
D38 was removed,
Red wire from clarifier tied to 8v line,
R141 was not removed.

Removed R141, same result.

Checked clarifier voltage:
Front flapper changes from 8.44v down to 6.48v when large clarifier control is rotated.
Rear flapper changes from 8.44v down to 0.26v when small clarifier control is rotated.

Checked modes: (on channel 1, 26.965);
AM = 26.977
FM = 26.977
CW = 26.977
LSB = 26.977
USB = 26.965

AM PLL oscillator makes very little if any change when adjusting.
LSB PLL oscillator makes very little if any change when adjusting.
USB PLL oscillator makes typical changes when adjusting. (Works as it should).

Carrier PLL oscillators make the typical changes when adjusting. Works fine.

It's as though AM, FM, CW and LSB shift 12khz up. But USB doesn't do that, it stays on frequency.
 
Ooops, my bad...
I was adjusting the AM and LSB oscillators backwards.

I was adjusting L19 as LSB, L21 as AM.

After looking back over the alignment locations, I slapped myself 3 times, lol...

Everything is fine now.
AM - L19 adjusted back to 16.2700
USB - L20 adjusted to 16.2725
LSB - L21 adjusted back to 16.2675

All frequencies back in place, frequency counter on radio corresponds correctly now.
 
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