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I agree SW.

I was surprised with the patterns too. The 6" raised model suggest to me that Penn's idea for DX might work just as he notes, even though the gain looks to suffer badly. With that said, I've made some very good long distance contacts with very low watts out, and when conditions were working for me. DX is just unpredictable and depends a lot on how the antenna propagates...with waves combining somehow or not.

If the ground mounted model is even close to accurate, it would appear like the bottom lobe is out of phase with the top, but far worse than a regular 5/8 wave ground plane. IMO this might account for the very low gain we see reported by Eznec. SW, wouldn't that too be sorta' predictable also?

[QUOTE="Marconi, post: 319820, member: 903"] I agree SW. I was surprised with the patterns too. The 6" raised model suggest to me that Penn's idea for DX might work just as he notes, even though the gain looks to suffer badly. With that said, I've made some very good long distance contacts with very low watts out, and when conditions were working for me. DX is just unpredictable and depends a lot on how the antenna propagates...with waves combining somehow or not. If the ground mounted model is even close to accurate, [B][I]it would appear like the bottom lobe is out of phase with the top, but far worse than a regular 5/8 wave ground plane.[/I][/B] IMO this might account for the very low gain we see reported by Eznec. SW, wouldn't that too be sorta' predictable also? [/QUOTE]

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