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OK. Taking a step back now. Really bothering me, lol. I am a stickler for my stuff working right. I put the meter where the amp should be and tested it again just now with a matched antenna I know did 1:3 matched and a hair less on 20. It is that at the radio now and at the meter where the amp should be it is a hair above the 1:3 line. Also while on I heard base stations that I know their receive reading and that's fine. I then just now also hooked the coax back up to the amp and the SWR is just before the 2 when the amp is off and 1:1 when its on. Receive signals were the same when the amp was on or off. I also tried all the buttons on the amp and it stayed at 1:1. All SWR swing downwards when I talk, if that means anything. Receive amp works fine. So I am thinking amp problem now pretty much for sure. Sks. Going to wait for barrel connector and see what happens then.