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[QUOTE="543_Dallas, post: 589388, member: 21044"If you can't tell us freq they were using in desert storm how or how far they were trying to communicate how can it possibly be relevant? You are giving the advice here so those other people's strapping signals are irrelevant. We got sidetracked and now you're too caught up in the pissing match to refocus on the original topic. I was on 3865 this morning in that time frame and heard nothing. You guys are using low antennas just like me and we've established that they are not great DX antennas. I have made contacts with crappy antennas too but that is also irrelevant. I have tried to keep my comments limited to personal experience with local communication on the lower frequencies. You keep reaching out for something or someone to prove me wrong because it doesn't fall inline with what you've read.

I don't think anyone is saying that low antennas are good DX antennas are they? Maybe I missed it. I hope not because low antennas certainly are NOT good for DX unless they happen to be low band verticals over a decent radial field. Low horizontal antennas tend to have high angle radiation which is poor for DX but reasonably good for regional work out to about 600 and maybe up to 1000 miles on 40m. At that distance contacts are not DX unless one is using the simple criteria of skywave as being DX as opposed to local groundwave communications.

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<blockquote data-quote="Captain Kilowatt" data-source="post: 589389" data-attributes="member: 39">[QUOTE=&quot;543_Dallas, post: 589388, member: 21044&quot;If you can&#039;t tell us freq they were using in desert storm how or how far they were trying to communicate how can it possibly be relevant? You are giving the advice here so those other people&#039;s strapping signals are irrelevant. We got sidetracked and now you&#039;re too caught up in the pissing match to refocus on the original topic. I was on 3865 this morning in that time frame and heard nothing. You guys are using low antennas just like me and we&#039;ve established that they are not great DX antennas. I have made contacts with crappy antennas too but that is also irrelevant. I have tried to keep my comments limited to personal experience with local communication on the lower frequencies. You keep reaching out for something or someone to prove me wrong because it doesn&#039;t fall inline with what you&#039;ve read.</blockquote>I don&#039;t think anyone is saying that low antennas are good DX antennas are they? Maybe I missed it. I hope not because low antennas certainly are NOT good for DX unless they happen to be low band verticals over a decent radial field. Low horizontal antennas tend to have high angle radiation which is poor for DX but reasonably good for regional work out to about 600 and maybe up to 1000 miles on 40m. At that distance contacts are not DX unless one is using the simple criteria of skywave as being DX as opposed to local groundwave communications.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Captain Kilowatt, post: 589389, member: 39"] [QUOTE="543_Dallas, post: 589388, member: 21044"If you can't tell us freq they were using in desert storm how or how far they were trying to communicate how can it possibly be relevant? You are giving the advice here so those other people's strapping signals are irrelevant. We got sidetracked and now you're too caught up in the pissing match to refocus on the original topic. I was on 3865 this morning in that time frame and heard nothing. You guys are using low antennas just like me and we've established that they are not great DX antennas. I have made contacts with crappy antennas too but that is also irrelevant. I have tried to keep my comments limited to personal experience with local communication on the lower frequencies. You keep reaching out for something or someone to prove me wrong because it doesn't fall inline with what you've read.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone is saying that low antennas are good DX antennas are they? Maybe I missed it. I hope not because low antennas certainly are NOT good for DX unless they happen to be low band verticals over a decent radial field. Low horizontal antennas tend to have high angle radiation which is poor for DX but [U]reasonably [/U]good for regional work out to about 600 and maybe up to 1000 miles on 40m. At that distance contacts are not DX unless one is using the simple criteria of skywave as being DX as opposed to local groundwave communications. [/QUOTE]

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