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You don't have enough information about desert storm. Just knowing it was HF and most likely below 14mhz is not enough. Your too dense to see that and don't trust me so. Here is some reading material since thats what seems to work for you. All frequencies below 14mzh do not propagate the same. http://www.hamuniverse.com/hfbands.html

Just FYI my licence is a higher class than yours. The fact you've been at this 35 years, are still a general class with a fan dipole shows what you're capable of. Trying to prove the ability of your nvis 75 meter antenna to me 900 miles away is icing on the cake. You started with the insults somehow you think I'm the one that's butt hurt. My feathers are far from ruffled.

I believe someone with a professional background in radio posted that nvis should not be required for a 3 mile trip so why are you stuck on nvis antennas?

Please remember this all started with 2 people 3 miles away trying to communicate on 20 and 40 meters. I said "that's nvis propagation" not that they needed nvis antennas. They already have nvis antennas that fit the criteria you shared for 40 meters and apparently it isn't working for them.

You're the one that's, refuses to get back on topic and forget the nvis thing. Now that were past that you still keep ignoring the fact that ground loss increases as the antenna is lowered. You keep focusing on radiation patterns and nvis. Can we be friends now or would like to call me a few names first? I have thick skin, it's ok.

<blockquote data-quote="543_Dallas" data-source="post: 589485" data-attributes="member: 21044">You don&#039;t have enough information about desert storm. Just knowing it was HF and most likely below 14mhz is not enough. Your too dense to see that and don&#039;t trust me so. Here is some reading material since thats what seems to work for you. All frequencies below 14mzh do not propagate the same.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.hamuniverse.com/hfbands.html" target="_blank">http://www.hamuniverse.com/hfbands.html</a>Just FYI my licence is a higher class than yours. The fact you&#039;ve been at this 35 years, are still a general class with a fan dipole shows what you&#039;re capable of. Trying to prove the ability of your nvis 75 meter antenna to me 900 miles away is icing on the cake. You started with the insults somehow you think I&#039;m the one that&#039;s butt hurt. My feathers are far from ruffled.I believe someone with a professional background in radio posted that nvis should not be required for a 3 mile trip so why are you stuck on nvis antennas?Please remember this all started with 2 people 3 miles away trying to communicate on 20 and 40 meters. I said &quot;that&#039;s nvis propagation&quot; not that they needed nvis antennas. They already have nvis antennas that fit the criteria you shared for 40 meters and apparently it isn&#039;t working for them. You&#039;re the one that&#039;s, refuses to get back on topic and forget the nvis thing. Now that were past that you still keep ignoring the fact that ground loss increases as the antenna is lowered. You keep focusing on radiation patterns and nvis. Can we be friends now or would like to call me a few names first? I have thick skin, it&#039;s ok.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="543_Dallas, post: 589485, member: 21044"] You don't have enough information about desert storm. Just knowing it was HF and most likely below 14mhz is not enough. Your too dense to see that and don't trust me so. Here is some reading material since thats what seems to work for you. All frequencies below 14mzh do not propagate the same. [URL]http://www.hamuniverse.com/hfbands.html[/URL] Just FYI my licence is a higher class than yours. The fact you've been at this 35 years, are still a general class with a fan dipole shows what you're capable of. Trying to prove the ability of your nvis 75 meter antenna to me 900 miles away is icing on the cake. You started with the insults somehow you think I'm the one that's butt hurt. My feathers are far from ruffled. I believe someone with a professional background in radio posted that nvis should not be required for a 3 mile trip so why are you stuck on nvis antennas? Please remember this all started with 2 people 3 miles away trying to communicate on 20 and 40 meters. I said "that's nvis propagation" not that they needed nvis antennas. They already have nvis antennas that fit the criteria you shared for 40 meters and apparently it isn't working for them. You're the one that's, refuses to get back on topic and forget the nvis thing. Now that were past that you still keep ignoring the fact that ground loss increases as the antenna is lowered. You keep focusing on radiation patterns and nvis. Can we be friends now or would like to call me a few names first? I have thick skin, it's ok. [/QUOTE]

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