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You didn't call names but were beating around the bush with comments like me needing to be spoon fed or barely being able to pass the ameatur exam. That is the only reason I pointed out my license class. With today's tests and the study material available that's not something to brag about anyway.

I think the problem here is that both of us got stuck on the point we were trying to make and lost focus on everything else. Both of us overlooked good points made by the other and I'm willing to take my share of the blame.

You did mention using 10 and 12 meters. Thats a great idea but this thread is about 20 and 40. The OP is already doing that and it's working. I think it's good that he is interested in experimenting with 20 and 40 instead of saying screw it and going to 10.

I took nothing personal. Our antennas are about the same height so that's kind of a wash. I do prefer ladder line fed doublets over coax for a multiband antenna but its not for everyone. The w8ji link I put in post #12 isn't too far off from what you shared.

The advice I was giving was that bringing a 20 ft antenna even lower was not going to be productive for typical 40 and 20 meter work. I don't think it would help him make that 3 mile contact but if it did the other effects would be all negative.

<blockquote data-quote="543_Dallas" data-source="post: 589577" data-attributes="member: 21044">You didn&#039;t call names but were beating around the bush with comments like me needing to be spoon fed or barely being able to pass the ameatur exam. That is the only reason I pointed out my license class. With today&#039;s tests and the study material available that&#039;s not something to brag about anyway.I think the problem here is that both of us got stuck on the point we were trying to make and lost focus on everything else. Both of us overlooked good points made by the other and I&#039;m willing to take my share of the blame.You did mention using 10 and 12 meters. Thats a great idea but this thread is about 20 and 40. The OP is already doing that and it&#039;s working. I think it&#039;s good that he is interested in experimenting with 20 and 40 instead of saying screw it and going to 10.I took nothing personal. Our antennas are about the same height so that&#039;s kind of a wash. I do prefer ladder line fed doublets over coax for a multiband antenna but its not for everyone. The w8ji link I put in post #12 isn&#039;t too far off from what you shared. The advice I was giving was that bringing a 20 ft antenna even lower was not going to be productive for typical 40 and 20 meter work. I don&#039;t think it would help him make that 3 mile contact but if it did the other effects would be all negative.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="543_Dallas, post: 589577, member: 21044"] You didn't call names but were beating around the bush with comments like me needing to be spoon fed or barely being able to pass the ameatur exam. That is the only reason I pointed out my license class. With today's tests and the study material available that's not something to brag about anyway. I think the problem here is that both of us got stuck on the point we were trying to make and lost focus on everything else. Both of us overlooked good points made by the other and I'm willing to take my share of the blame. You did mention using 10 and 12 meters. Thats a great idea but this thread is about 20 and 40. The OP is already doing that and it's working. I think it's good that he is interested in experimenting with 20 and 40 instead of saying screw it and going to 10. I took nothing personal. Our antennas are about the same height so that's kind of a wash. I do prefer ladder line fed doublets over coax for a multiband antenna but its not for everyone. The w8ji link I put in post #12 isn't too far off from what you shared. The advice I was giving was that bringing a 20 ft antenna even lower was not going to be productive for typical 40 and 20 meter work. I don't think it would help him make that 3 mile contact but if it did the other effects would be all negative. [/QUOTE]

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