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Yeah but IIRC HM is not in Fla? Is he? Maybe I have him confused with someone else? In any event a proper mast should stay up unless the supporting structure, like bolted to a house, gets destroyed. Sure you may loose the antenna itself but a 2" steel mast should stay up if properly installed. I have lost count of how many antennas much smaller than mine have been lost throughout the years because they were installed on a small diameter piece of EMT or light weight swagged tubing from Radio Shack without any guys or improper bolting to a structure. My first antenna of any size was a Wilson Shooting Star installed on a piece of 2 inch water pipe telescoped thru sleeves welded to a piece of four inch well casing with the bottom in the ground and bolted to the eve of the house. The boom was about 36 feet high with no guys and a horizon about 12 miles away to the south and east and well over 20 miles to the northeast and east. We got winds strong enough to destroy an Astroplane and it's mounting pipe (thin walled swagged tubing) yet my yagi stayed put. After the Cat 1 borderline Cat 2 hurricane passed everyone was stunned to hear me back on the air long before others because dozens and dozens of groundplanes and three element beams in the area were down.I was 15 years old at the time and decided even then to do it right. Now, 37 years later, I work too damned hard to put antennas up so I don't want to have to do it any more often than absolutely necessary. LOL

Edit: Yeah OK I just checked his IP and he is in Fla. however there are LOTS of ham antennas that stay up as well as lots that come down too I guess however the best insurance about it staying up is to install it like you want it to stay forever. The extra cost is minimal and the added insurance can't be beat.

<blockquote data-quote="Captain Kilowatt" data-source="post: 533137" data-attributes="member: 39">Yeah but IIRC HM is not in Fla? Is he? Maybe I have him confused with someone else? In any event a proper mast should stay up unless the supporting structure, like bolted to a house, gets destroyed. Sure you may loose the antenna itself but a 2&quot; steel mast should stay up if properly installed. I have lost count of how many antennas much smaller than mine have been lost throughout the years because they were installed on a small diameter piece of EMT or light weight swagged tubing from Radio Shack without any guys or improper bolting to a structure. My first antenna of any size was a Wilson Shooting Star installed on a piece of 2 inch water pipe telescoped thru sleeves welded to a piece of four inch well casing with the bottom in the ground and bolted to the eve of the house. The boom was about 36 feet high with no guys and a horizon about 12 miles away to the south and east and well over 20 miles to the northeast and east. We got winds strong enough to destroy an Astroplane and it&#039;s mounting pipe (thin walled swagged tubing) yet my yagi stayed put. After the Cat 1 borderline Cat 2 hurricane passed everyone was stunned to hear me back on the air long before others because dozens and dozens of groundplanes and three element beams in the area were down.I was 15 years old at the time and decided even then to do it right. Now, 37 years later, I work too damned hard to put antennas up so I don&#039;t want to have to do it any more often than absolutely necessary. LOLEdit: Yeah OK I just checked his IP and he is in Fla. however there are LOTS of ham antennas that stay up as well as lots that come down too I guess however the best insurance about it staying up is to install it like you want it to stay forever. The extra cost is minimal and the added insurance can&#039;t be beat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Captain Kilowatt, post: 533137, member: 39"] Yeah but IIRC HM is not in Fla? Is he? Maybe I have him confused with someone else? In any event a proper mast should stay up unless the supporting structure, like bolted to a house, gets destroyed. Sure you may loose the antenna itself but a 2" steel mast should stay up if properly installed. I have lost count of how many antennas much smaller than mine have been lost throughout the years because they were installed on a small diameter piece of EMT or light weight swagged tubing from Radio Shack without any guys or improper bolting to a structure. My first antenna of any size was a Wilson Shooting Star installed on a piece of 2 inch water pipe telescoped thru sleeves welded to a piece of four inch well casing with the bottom in the ground and bolted to the eve of the house. The boom was about 36 feet high with no guys and a horizon about 12 miles away to the south and east and well over 20 miles to the northeast and east. We got winds strong enough to destroy an Astroplane and it's mounting pipe (thin walled swagged tubing) yet my yagi stayed put. After the Cat 1 borderline Cat 2 hurricane passed everyone was stunned to hear me back on the air long before others because dozens and dozens of groundplanes and three element beams in the area were down.I was 15 years old at the time and decided even then to do it right. Now, 37 years later, I work too damned hard to put antennas up so I don't want to have to do it any more often than absolutely necessary. LOL Edit: Yeah OK I just checked his IP and he is in Fla. however there are LOTS of ham antennas that stay up as well as lots that come down too I guess however the best insurance about it staying up is to install it like you want it to stay forever. The extra cost is minimal and the added insurance can't be beat. [/QUOTE]

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