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The Responsibilities Associated With Using a Big HF Mobile Antenna

Moleculo

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Apr 14, 2002
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While driving on the freeway on my way home from work, I went over a bump in the road cause by some in-progress repair work. As soon as I hit the bump, I heard a loud POP from behind the Jeep and as I quickly looked in the rear view mirror, I saw my Hi-Q 4-80 HF antenna launched from it's mount. At first my heart sank, but I also knew that I had it properly guyed to the rear tire carrier. The antenna actually got caught upside down between the rear tire carrier and the Jeep body, so I was able to slow down and pull over while dragging only the whip along the ground.

Fortunately, the spring between the whip and the cap hat riser absorbed most of the impact from hitting the ground so there was no damage done to the antenna. When I got out to retrieve the antenna, I saw that the heavy duty Hi-Q giant quick disconnect base had actually sheared off the bolt holding it down to the tire carrier. It looked like the stainless 3/8-24 bolt had just fatigued to the point of failure and sheared off.

The lesson for everyone here is that if you decide to run one of these big heavy HF antennas on your vehicle, you can't just rely on the main mount. You must take precaution to secure the antenna by some secondary means. If I didn't have that guy rope on the antenna, I would have lost it. Worse, it would have caused a massive car accident behind me or quite possibly killed any trailing motorcyclists. Running one of these big antennas comes with the added responsibility of making sure that if the thing were to ever come loose, it will stay with the vehicle and not cause injury to others. The other lesson learned is to check the mounting hardware periodically. This bolt could have easily been replaced if I had inspected it at least once in the 5 years or so that I've owned the mount.

When I got home, I inspected the bolt that secures the mount. There is no real damage to the mount, but the bolt has enough corrosion that it sure isn't going to come out easy. I have a few different things I will try to salvage the mount, but in the meantime I ordered a new one. I've heard that there were a few design changes made to the Hi-Q quick disconnect base to take some of the slop out of it, so I now have a reason to try it out. When the new one comes in, I'll take some pictures and post them.
 

Had the same thing happen with a 'ball-mount' and a bug catcher. The feed line held it so that I didn't have to go back for the thing. Also didn't happen at speed, and I was the only car around and only a couple of blocks from the house. Those neighbors got a good introduction to advanced cussing...
The 'stud' broke. Replaced the thing with a cut off section from a rear spring shackle. That's a much 'harder' type metal than the average 'stud'. Think the thing hit a tree limb, so the 'stud' wasn't in the best of shape to start with, like yours. If it had been the screwdriver antenna, there would have been a need for a couple of ambulances! For me and that neighbor. Maybe the screwdriver too...
- 'Doc
 
It looked like the stainless 3/8-24 bolt had just fatigued to the point of failure and sheared off.
The first thing that comes to my mind is over torquing. When you torque a bolt, you stretch it to somewhere just below the material yield strength. If you pass the material yield strength, you've permanently deformed the metal and lost the tension required for proper torque, AND weakened the bolt. Stainless steel can often be referred to as "gummy", when compared to steel and most people never use a torque wrench, but rely on feel instead. The problem is that a stainless bolt can "feel" very different from a steel bolt when torquing, and it's easy to over torque the stainless steel.

There is no way for me to say that this is what in fact happened, but it's certainly worth being aware of.

3/8-16 bolt ......

33 ft/lbs - grade 5 steel
47 ft/lbs - grade 8 steel
19 ft/lbs - 18-8 stainless bolt
21 ft/lbs - 316 stainless bolt
 
The bolt may have been fatigued from being solidly mounted and using a heavy antenna. There are two ways of thinking when mounting mobile antennas. One says to tighten everything down solid and use tough, sturdy mounts that will not allow any movement at all. When doing this with a large heavy antenna all the shock and stress is placed directly onto the mounting stud. the other way is to fashion a bracket that has just tiny bit of give such as an L shaped piece of 1/8 inch aluminum or stainless steel. This allows a very slight bit of flexing to help relieve the stress of a large antenna swaying around on the back of a vehicle especially one that is used off roads as well as freeways.
 
try one of these.

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Two ways to go.....Use grade 8 hardware and not chi-com stuff. Grade eight will bend but will not shear under load. I never use anything less then grade 8. The other idea would be to use a copper alloy some form of bronze or brass. They are soft and like wise almost never shear if you make them large enough they will deform instead of shearing. This assumes the size is larger then needed. I am not a huge fan of stainless unless I can specify the material myself because they are not all created equally some are very brittle and shear easily. You need a alloy that is tough not so much hard.

Good point about over torquing but other then using a universal table based on size and thread count not sure we would have any real data on how much torque to use. If you use a locking washer and some Locktite I would imagine you would not need to tighten more then 28 ft-lbs.?!?!?!
 

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