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Using 2 102" whips horizontal opinions?

Mr. Pipeline

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Hey hello there it's been awhile since I posted I do have left two 102 inch whips when I first got back into the hobby a little over a year ago I experimented with a snow rake handle that was about 15 ft and using the radio out of my truck and hoisting up the antenna here the SWR on this horizontal system was phenomenal it was near perfect my question is has there anybody been out there that uses one on a daily basis or uses one or has used one in the past as a dipole to use like a beam? Currently running a Sirio Vector 4000 At 21 ft at the base from to the ground which does extremely well but there are places over in Asia I cannot hit my location is in state of Maine but I have done very well for what it is currently running a Any tone quad 6 pro where they are in Italy 503 HD and they play together very nicely but I do hear my buddies with their beams and all that good stuff making the trip to Australia I did actually make the trip to Australia with the vector 4000 to a gentleman out of broom Australia northwest coast but it's been the only time so it got me excited but I noticed horizontally the guys with the beams are making the easiest contacts without effort and low wattage just seeing what the 102 inch whips in horizontal formation I've done it using the vertical formation and they work great as well!
 
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Hey hello there it's been awhile since I posted I do have left two 102 inch whips when I first got back into the hobby a little over a year ago I experimented with a snow rake handle that was about 15 ft and using the radio out of my truck and hoisting up the antenna here the SWR on this horizontal system was phenomenal it was near perfect my question is has there anybody been out there that uses one on a daily basis or uses one or has used one in the past as a dipole to use like a beam? Currently running a Sirio Vector 4000 At 21 ft at the base from to the ground which does extremely well but there are places over in Asia I cannot hit my location is in state of Maine but I have done very well for what it is currently running a Any tone quad 6 pro where they are in Italy 503 HD and they play together very nicely but I do hear my buddies with their beams and all that good stuff making the trip to Australia I did actually make the trip to Australia with the vector 4000 to a gentleman out of broom Australia northwest coast but it's been the only time so it got me excited but I noticed horizontally the guys with the beams are making the easiest contacts without effort and low wattage just seeing what the 102 inch whips in horizontal formation I've done it using the vertical formation and they work great as well!
Go ahead and hold the whip in the horizontal position and notice how much it bends towards the ground.
Talking skip is a hit or miss game and all about conditions.
 
Go ahead and hold the whip in the horizontal position and notice how much it bends towards the ground.
Talking skip is a hit or miss game and all about conditions.
Well I have conducted a SWR testing before with them drooping down and wasn't affected at all ...near perfect results but my problem was my radio had some problems going on I wasn't aware of at the time heard stations on there that I never heard normally and static was very quiet
 
Well I have conducted a SWR testing before with them drooping down and wasn't affected at all ...near perfect results but my problem was my radio had some problems going on I wasn't aware of at the time heard stations on there that I never heard normally and static was very quiet
I'm not certain, but I don't think the direction / position of an antenna affects SWR, unless maybe if the vehicle was in an enclosed building or garage. Go ahead and try transmitting and see / hear what happens next. Good Luck with that experiment.
 
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I built this in about 20 min and talked from CA to WV this morning on ten meters with 100 watts SSB.
Temporary, quick, and easy.
Can be flipped to run horizontal or vertical.
With my little LDG autotuner it covers 10/11/12/15 easily.
Direct connection with no tuner equals this on the old MFJ.
Two Francis 96" whips.

73
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I built this in about 20 min and talked from CA to WV this morning on ten meters with 100 watts SSB.
Temporary, quick, and easy.
Can be flipped to run horizontal and vertical.
With my little LDG autotuner it covers 10/11/12/15 easily.
Direct connection with no tuner equals this on the old MFJ.
Two Francis 96" whips.

73
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Oh yes I know about this very well I ran a system like this all winter long and it was great it did very well for what it was but I'm looking for anybody with experience in the horizontal position there if anybody runs their antennas like that to act like maybe a beam or something but thank you very much for the pictures looks great
 
Basically, that's a "half-wave dipole", and EZNEC should show the same parameters. I won't swear by that, because I don't even know how to USE EZNEC. I'm just stating what you made according to antenna theory. Very neat idea though.
 
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Oh yes I know about this very well I ran a system like this all winter long and it was great it did very well for what it was but I'm looking for anybody with experience in the horizontal position there if anybody runs their antennas like that to act like maybe a beam or something but thank you very much for the pictures looks great
Yes, many operators run HamStick mobile antennas horizontal, MFJ sells a kit to make dipole antennas with mobile whips.
Works just fine.

73
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Basically, that's a "half-wave dipole", and EZNEC should show the same parameters. I won't swear by that, because I don't even know how to USE EZNEC. I'm just stating what you made according to antenna theory. Very neat idea though.
Yes, many guys on the Ham bands use loaded fiberglass whips, used to be Hamsticks, but I think they went out and someone else picked up the antennas.

73
Jeff
 

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