VIZWARZ, or only your Barista knows for sure...

[kopcicle]

Reposted without request, remorse, or regret. Because, I am the original poster I didn't have to ask for permission.
Enjoy or ignore, up to you.

...Sitting in line, listening to VHF/UHF mobile, in the car, waiting for coffee. It's a thing here, really. Baristas working feverishly to construct a "Trenti iced coffee, 12 pumps [sugar-free] vanilla, 12 pumps [sugar-free] hazelnut, 12 pumps [sugar-free] caramel, 5 pumps skinny mocha, a splash of soy, ice, double-blended!" (there's always one and they're always in front of me). When I hear this relating to VHF/UHF radio on a very broad coverage local repeater.

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual Yeah Mike my educated deduction from the measurements you have from my mobile install lead me to believe I have a transmission line problem. Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual , over.

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual (speaking over the full repeater ID tail) Paul I came to the same determination. I believe the vizwars can be virtually eliminated by adjusting the transmission line length. Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual Mike, don't we first have to determine if those are positive or negative vizwars to identify if the transmission line is too long or too short? Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual Paul I'm sure the differential measurements taken at the base of the antenna input and at the radio output will tell you that.
Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual Mike , I'm predominately destinated here so we'll have to continue this Que Ess Oh via portable while I shuffle vehicles around. You know how the Howa gets about vehicles parked on the street and garage doors being open. Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over.

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual Well Paul Quirt for now and I'll look forward to hearing you on portablethree. Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over,

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual quirtz here and quizwhy to portablethree. Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree to Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactualforidentification (again, talking over the complete repeater id tail)Your aparzz shows your position is different for Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree than for Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablesix I thought that was corrected with your last factory reset Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual over.

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual We'll have to compare that with Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieactual when I get into the house over.

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree from Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual It will be interesting to see if all three align. It's possible all three tranceivers need to be reset at the same time. over.

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual I'll be quirtz from Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree and quizwhy to Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieactual when I'm completely destinated . Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual , Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree quirtz and quizwhy to Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieactual , Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual

As we are receiving our Mocha and two shots in a cup the barista who is a licensed technician and aspiring general ( cute ass* heck too) asks " what were they talking about?"

Repeater control operator...

N7LMO ...

Me

N7LMO from AF7XT

Dennis, What did I just hear ?

Bob, I assure you I have no idea.

N7LMO...

AF7XT...

To the barista , "Some amateur radio operators are far more amateur than operator"

Barista "So those two were morons?" ...

Neither my driver Kevin KI7CWV or myself were able to come up with words for several seconds. Attempting to speak through convulsive laughter, tears and a fair bit of coffee coming out the nose (I won't tell who..) compounded the problem. All the while yet another "Trenti iced coffee, 12 pumps [sugar-free] vanilla, 12 pumps [sugar-free] hazelnut, 12 pumps [sugar-free] caramel, 5 pumps skinny mocha, a splash of soy, ice, double-blended!" or some such waited behind us wondering what was going on as much as we did.

There is very little embellishment in this tale. The call signs other than mine and Keven's have been changed. Bob, the control operator, didn't even want to be associated with the above QSO by admitting to listening (I did ask). I relate it first for humor's sake and then as an example of a lack of mentoring by the established amateur community.

Alphafoxtrotsevenxraytango....

 

[BC Coyote]

Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual I'll be quirtz from Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree and quizwhy to Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieactual when I'm completely destinated . Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual , Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree quirtz and quizwhy to Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieactual , Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual

The next time someone asks me why I stick to unlicensed CB and 11 meter radio I will be directing them to this post by way of explanation!

 

[kopcicle]

Seriously, don't let these two stop you. On one hand these fwits are few and far between.On the other hand, just think of the fun you could have with Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual and Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree without really trying?

The sequel to these two limp tubes isn't nearly as entertaining but here it goes.

§ 97.119 Station identification.

(a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication,~snip

So, when Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual and Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree took myself and another amateur (my wife ) to task for not identifying.
Ten minutes had not passed
We were not finished with our communication
Doubleusevenxrayyankeezebraactual and Doubleusevenalphabrovocharlieportablethree took it upon themselves to enforce the "will of the people" by first interrupting our conversation to demand identification by callsign, then purposely interfered with our communication citing 47 CFR§ 97.119 (a) as their legal right to enforce our compliance.

47 CFR § 97.101 General standards.

~snip

(d) No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal.

25 CFR § 11.432 Impersonating a public servant.

At least that's what they received in the mail.

Since they were unwilling to release the frequency even if we had attempted to ID past the three minute mark and continued to chase the alligator (repeater time out) for nearly a half hour, this got the attention of the control operator.

So one of these dolts says to the owner of the machine "I I was fully justified ..."

Epilogue

I consider it a personal failing and a flaw in my character that when these two lids walked into a VE session I was attending for their upgrade...
I got up and left. I made eye contact with both of them before leaving. I just couldn't be a part of it . I have no idea if either upgraded or even continued in the amateur radio service
Normally I'm an easy going SOB. This time I was just an SOB.