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"What you will find is the 5/8th wave can vary from being just slightly better than a 1/4 wave with three or more sloping radials to being much worse at low angles. Statistically the 1/4 wave is more reliable."

that was not my experience when i went from a wire starduster copy to maco type 5/8 with four sloped 1/4wl radials . both were at the same mounting location , but the 5/8 was about 2 ft lower to the feed-point (1/4 was about 19 ft to feedpoint) . and no , they were not up at the same time .

before i ever made the 5/8 i had noticed on the SD that i seemed to have a donut shaped area about 25 to 35-40ish miles away where i just didn't hear folks that other near me herd . they typically didnt hear me either then it would pick back up again . when i first got the 5/8 together on a pipe in a hole in the yard it did much better than the SD and the donut was gone . when put up to a 17 ft feedpoint tx and rx improved again . maybe the SD had a problem i wasn't aware of . but it got compliments locally , and skip being about conditions it seemed to take good advantage of those conditions compared to the contact success other locals were having . i may have been a bit biased with opinion of the success of my wire contraption , i was suprised it worked !!!!

in that situation the 5/8 was a clear winner . but i know for a fact a 1/4wgp can be a very effective antenna

<blockquote data-quote="BOOTY MONSTER" data-source="post: 281337">&quot;What you will find is the 5/8th wave can vary from being just slightly better than a 1/4 wave with three or more sloping radials to being much worse at low angles. Statistically the 1/4 wave is more reliable.&quot;that was not my experience when i went from a wire starduster copy to&nbsp; maco type 5/8 with four sloped 1/4wl radials . both were at the same mounting location , but the 5/8 was about 2 ft lower to the feed-point (1/4 was about 19 ft to feedpoint) . and no , they were not up at the same time . before i ever made the 5/8 i had noticed on the SD that i seemed to have a donut shaped area about 25 to 35-40ish miles away where i just didn&#039;t hear folks that other near me herd . they typically didnt hear me either then it would pick back up again . when i first got the 5/8 together on a pipe in a hole in the yard it did much better than the SD and the donut was gone . when put up to a 17 ft feedpoint tx and rx improved again . maybe the SD had a problem i wasn&#039;t aware of . but it got compliments locally , and skip being about conditions it seemed to take good advantage of those conditions compared to the contact success other locals were having . i may have been a bit biased with opinion of the success of my wire contraption , i was suprised it worked !!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />in that situation the 5/8 was a clear winner . but i know for a fact a 1/4wgp can be a very effective antenna</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BOOTY MONSTER, post: 281337"] "What you will find is the 5/8th wave can vary from being just slightly better than a 1/4 wave with three or more sloping radials to being much worse at low angles. Statistically the 1/4 wave is more reliable." that was not my experience when i went from a wire starduster copy to maco type 5/8 with four sloped 1/4wl radials . both were at the same mounting location , but the 5/8 was about 2 ft lower to the feed-point (1/4 was about 19 ft to feedpoint) . and no , they were not up at the same time . before i ever made the 5/8 i had noticed on the SD that i seemed to have a donut shaped area about 25 to 35-40ish miles away where i just didn't hear folks that other near me herd . they typically didnt hear me either then it would pick back up again . when i first got the 5/8 together on a pipe in a hole in the yard it did much better than the SD and the donut was gone . when put up to a 17 ft feedpoint tx and rx improved again . maybe the SD had a problem i wasn't aware of . but it got compliments locally , and skip being about conditions it seemed to take good advantage of those conditions compared to the contact success other locals were having . i may have been a bit biased with opinion of the success of my wire contraption , i was suprised it worked !!!! :) in that situation the 5/8 was a clear winner . but i know for a fact a 1/4wgp can be a very effective antenna [/QUOTE]

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